- From: Joe Carmel <joe.carmel@comcast.net>
- Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:10:48 -0500
- To: "'Antti Poikola'" <antti.poikola@gmail.com>, "'Jonathan Gray'" <jonathan.gray@okfn.org>
- Cc: "'Steven Clift'" <clift@e-democracy.org>, <public-egov-ig@w3.org>, <sunlightlabs@groups.google.com>, "'Acar, Suzanne'" <Suzanne.Acar@ic.fbi.gov>
I totally agree with you Antti. I think data.gov and other government websites should be looking to use a standards-based data cataloging format (e.g., extending AtomXML or OPDS) that allows entries link to be data files or other catalogs. Similar to sitemaps and HTML, governments would publish a file at the root of their websites that provides a catalog to the data files on their site. By enabling the catalog format to point to other catalogs, a root catalog could point to sub-department level catalogs allowing data catalog management responsibilities to be distributed within an organization. At present, governments use HTML in a variety of ways for data cataloging. This looser approach has made it difficult to get one's arms around all of the data being published at a given site. (e.g, http://www.atlantis-press.com/php/download_paper.php?id=1763). IMO, if a standard data catalog format was used it would presumably be with XML which would enable individual catalogs to "look" different from one site to another (using CSS or XSL), but the underlying data structures would be the same--allowing for machine readability. By providing access to remote data storage, the Internet has been used to publish data and documents. Standard file names (index.htm, main.htm) are used as HTML entry points for websites. The default HTML file then uses hypertext links to provide access to subsequent files. In the same way HTML provides links to any file, I believe that standardized catalog files pointing to sub-catalogs and data files could enable a more searchable and usable web of data. Joe -----Original Message----- From: public-egov-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:public-egov-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Antti Poikola Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:10 AM To: Jonathan Gray Cc: Steven Clift; public-egov-ig@w3.org; sunlightlabs@groups.google.com Subject: Re: Public Data Catalog Priorities and Demand Hi, Please Jonathan, Steven and others, let us know if you find some visualization, categorization or prioritization that would clarify the "swamp" of public sector information sources. I'm looking for two things: 1. A easy way to get the BIG PICTURE of what kind of public sector information most propably exists (even if it is not open yet) in a typical country or city. 2. Some priorities from the information re-users point of view So far I have found only listings and catalogues that can be re-ordered according to some topics (for example CKAN and data.gov), but these are not really helping to give the big picture. From this kind of catalogues it is easy to find some specific data source if you know what you are looking for, but if you just want to see what is out there and build the overview the catalogues are not so helpful. Best regards -Antti "Jogi" Poikola Jonathan Gray kirjoitti: > Just to let you know, we're currently working on this with CKAN.net. > Also very interested in thinking about how we can track how different > datasets are reused. > > Jonathan > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Steven Clift <clift@e-democracy.org> wrote: > >> Has anyone explored what government data is in highest "demand" on the >> emerging public data reuse sites? How does interest from different >> re-user audiences vary (e.g. business, media, open gov advocates, >> independent coders, etc.) >> >> Also, has anyone started a comparsion chart of what different >> governments are providing? It would be interesting to quickly see what >> different national or local governments are providing now and over >> time. This gets to the "what's important" to release for easy reuse >> versus what is the easiest or least politically sensitive. >> >> Steven Clift >> E-Democracy.org >> >> -- >> Steven Clift - http://stevenclift.com >> Executive Director - http://E-Democracy.Org >> Follow me - http://twitter.com/democracy >> >> >> > > > >
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