[Minutes] Editing WG - 2025-06-12

08:04 <whsieh> johanneswilm and whsieh talking about where to document editing behaviors moving forward
08:04 <whsieh> johanneswilm https://github.com/w3c/editing/issues/488
08:05 <whsieh> johanneswilm: e.g. place where we should spec caret movement, which elements are editing hosts, what does deletion of rich/plain text do
08:05 <whsieh> johanneswilm: not full algorithm of DOM changes because that covers both cE and EC, the latter of which doesn't encompass DOM changes
08:05 <whsieh> johanneswilm: but it does cover events
08:06 <whsieh> (this was prompted by https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/11173, more context in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-editing-tf/2025Apr/0000.html)
08:06 <whsieh> johanneswilm: what should the name of this document be?
08:08 <whsieh> whsieh: is "editing" the right scope for this? or does this also encompass what happens with non-editable selections
08:08 <whsieh> johanneswilm: probably just editable
08:09 <whsieh> smaug: "caret handling" perhaps
08:10 <whsieh> smaug: how deeply should these behaviors be specced
08:12 <whsieh> whsieh: Caret movement and editing?
08:12 <whsieh> johanneswilm: we need to have a name fairly soon so that we have a name for the charter by sept.
08:12 <whsieh> issue: https://github.com/w3c/editing/issues/487
08:14 <whsieh> johanneswilm: should we have a meeting? no issues last time or this time
08:14 <whsieh> johanneswilm: would be good to take care of anything outstanding on edit context
08:14 <whsieh> johanneswilm: so it would be good to have MS attendance, if we have a meeting
08:15 <whsieh> smaug: MS has also been pushing clipboard behviors
08:15 <whsieh> *behaviors
08:15 <whsieh> comandeer: also shadow DOM editing bheaviors
08:17 <whsieh> smaug: getComposedRanges seems pretty stable (engines are already implementing)
08:17 <whsieh> smaug: when do we need to decide by
08:17 <whsieh> johanneswilm: no date yet
08:19 <whsieh> johanneswilm: I can try and contact some of the main editing libraries that are not connected to browser vendors, see if they're interested in some kind of meeting
08:19 <whsieh> smaug: and first ask MS
08:20 <whsieh> johanneswilm: I will contact MS
08:24 <whsieh> whsieh: possibly something for clipboard history