Re: web input model (was "Re: The web doesn't need...")

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:32 PM, David Young <dyoung@pobox.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 06:06:15PM +0200, Johannes Wilm wrote:
> > Discussing the purpose of this taskforce with those who have been
> involved
> > in it for a considerable amount of time and are making great progress is
> a
> > bit like going into a shoe factory and trying the people there that shoes
> > aren't really needed or that it would be much better if they would
> produce
> > cars, or some such thing.
>
> My purpose isn't to direct you, or to denigrate your work, but to
> gauge how our understandings and our goals align or diverge.  The
> documentation is a bit thin, so I have questions.  For example, just
> what is meant by "caret"?
>
> I have not found where caret is defined, but I have surmised that you
> mean the mark that indicates the insertion & deletion points---i.e.,
> what I call a cursor.  The caret is drawn by the browser.
>
> What if I would like for my own JavaScript to draw the caret?
>

There  were some discussions related to some of that in the CSSWG lately.
My understanding is that the spec will allow you to make the caret
transparent and then you can draw something yourself using JavaScript on
top of that same location and you have your own caret.


> Furthermore, what if I would like to indicate the insertion & deletion
> points separately when they separate because of line wrapping, read-only
> or floating content?
>

can you write your use cases in github tickets?


>
> I have a couple of questions, too, about the "Legal Caret Positions"
> (http://w3c.github.io/editing/contentEditableEvents.html#dfn-legal-caret
> -positions).  Am I mistaken, or is there no legal caret position
> at the place indicated by | in the following HTML?
>
> <p>paragraph 1</p>
> |
> <p>paragraph 2</p>
>
> correct


> There are, however, legal caret positions at the places indicated by
> the two |'s in the next HTML, right?
>
> <p>paragraph 1|</p>
> <p>|paragraph 2</p>
>
> correct


> I have use for all three caret positions,
>
> <p>paragraph 1|</p>
> |
> <p>|paragraph 2</p>
>

ok, add your use cases and open a ticket.


>
> Dave
>
> --
> David Young
> dyoung@pobox.com    Urbana, IL    (217) 721-9981
>
>


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