- From: Svensson, Lars <L.Svensson@dnb.de>
- Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 07:51:11 +0000
- To: "Car, Nicholas (L&W, Dutton Park)" <Nicholas.Car@csiro.au>, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- CC: "public-dxwg-wg@w3.org" <public-dxwg-wg@w3.org>
+256 (at least!) > -----Original Message----- > From: Car, Nicholas (L&W, Dutton Park) [mailto:Nicholas.Car@csiro.au] > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 12:03 PM > To: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> > Cc: Svensson, Lars <L.Svensson@dnb.de>; public-dxwg-wg@w3.org > Subject: Re: Minutes from CNEG meeting 2019-04-11 - un-tagging requirements, > really? (re action 302) > > Yes please Antoine! > > Nicholas Car > Senior Experimental Scientist > CSIRO > nicholas.car@csiro.au | 0477 560 177 > > > > On 17 Apr 2019, at 6:39 pm, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote: > > > > Hi Lars, all, > > > > I'm copying Nick's mail after your below, so that there's a complete history. Sorry > we've not seen your email. > > > > And I guess the UCR team (of which I suppose I'm part of) never reacted to that. I > guess I've seen the discussion that was trying to figure out a common ground > between you and Karen, and then missed the plenary call in which it's been > discussed. > > > > Anyway, not good excuses, but re action 302 I'm surprised it was closed without > 'urging the UCR team to consolidate the requirement and close them' themselves. > That may have triggered something on our side. > > > > As you may see in the minutes, my reluctance to untagging is that it loses a big > part of the context of issues, which is hard to retrieve later. Closing feels more > appropriate for reflecting that a requirement is handled. Of course that's not > possible for issues tagged with multiple deliverable. Which is why we've suggested > this 'xxx-closed' tag yesterday. > > This said I realize that my fear would apply to the 'plenary-approved' > requirements. The older ones can be considered as noise, and I'm less worried about > untagging them or closing them abruptly. > > > > That may not help you much though, since (for a reason I now fail to remember) > nearly all the issues at > > https://www.w3.org/TR/dcat-ucr/#ProfileNegotiationRequirements > > seem to be dually tagged between Conneg and other profile deliverable(s). > > > > As a token of goodwill (and probably out of shame not having jumped in 302) I > am willing to add back the 'profile-negotiation' label as well as the new 'profile- > negotiation-closed' one on the ones that were un-labeled in the past days. Would > this be ok? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Antoine > > > > > > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > Subject: Re: Minutes from CNEG meeting 2019-04-11 - un-tagging > requirements, really? > > Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:24:12 +0000 > > From: Car, Nicholas (L&W, Dutton Park) <Nicholas.Car@csiro.au> > > To: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>, public-dxwg-wg@w3.org <public-dxwg- > wg@w3.org> > > > > Hi all, > > > > We - conneg editors - agree that de-tagging isn't a great idea. When we do this, > we loose the historical record of Issues that documents have dealt with. > > > > Going forward, we will simply tag issues with xxx-closed when they are closed > from the point of view of a subgroup, e.g. if profile-negotiation feels an issue is > closed for them, we will use profile-negotiation-closed. This will allow us to deal with > issues closed in subgroups and yet still retain the historical record. > > > > Nick > > > >> On 16/04/2019 20:01, Svensson, Lars wrote: > >> Good Evening Antoine, > >>> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:32 PM, Antoine Isaac [mailto:aisaac@few.vu.nl] > wrote: > >>> I am not sure to understand why removing the profile-negotiation tag from > >>> requirements that have been met. They are still relevant to negotiation even if > they > >>> are met, aren't they? I would consider closing them is a much better option > (though > >>> one may argue it's better done in plenary). Loosing the connection from Use > Cases > >>> and Requirements to our products does not seem good - especially if there are > some > >>> automatic listings made by using these tags... > >> This was discussed in ACTION-302 (cf. email thread starting at [1]). The final > resolution was that if we consider that a requirement has been addressed in a > deliverable, then we remove the tag but keep the issue open until it has been > addressed in _all_ deliverables: > >> [[ > >> [...] If conneg has completed this [requirement #217] you can remove the > conneg label > >> and you are no long responsible for that issue. You may want to leave a > >> comment that you've included it in your document and are removing your > >> label.]] > >> [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Feb/0556.html > >> [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Feb/0597.html > >> Best, > >> Lars > >> > >>>> On 12/04/2019 12:35, Svensson, Lars wrote: > >>>> ... are at [1]. > >>>> > >>>> We spent most of the meeting reviewing open GitHub issues, deciding to flag > >>> some of them for closing and to remove the profile-negotiation tag from > >>> requirements we consider have been met. > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://www.w3.org/2019/04/11-dxwgcneg-minutes > >>>> > >>>> Best, > >>>> > >>>> Lars > >>>> > >>>> *** Lesen. Hören. Wissen. Deutsche Nationalbibliothek *** > >>>> > >
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