- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:52:57 -0800
- To: "Car, Nicholas (L&W, Dutton Park)" <Nicholas.Car@csiro.au>
- Cc: "public-dxwg-wg@w3.org" <public-dxwg-wg@w3.org>
Here is what Dave replied to me, but I hope he will weigh in directly: "Given the advice I gave to Nicholas on namespace management, I believe that we need a consistent policy for DXWG. This means reserving /ns/dx/ as the top level and putting the specific namespaces under that. Thus the above would become https://www.w3.org/ns/dx/prof" I believe we need a discussion with him, as he speaks best for W3C practice. I also note that DCAT already has http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat#, which has "/ns/" as its top level. The DQV, DUV, PROV and others are hash URIs directly under "/ns/". So my use of "required" was a misinterpretation on my part. Having all of the DX vocabularies together would be nice - since DCAT already has its own, what do we have beyond profiles ontology and roles? Are we anticipating any other vocabularies? Do they have a logical connection to each other beyond being part of DXWG? kc On 11/16/18 1:28 PM, Car, Nicholas (L&W, Dutton Park) wrote: > We are not required to have a group identifier -it was a suggestion by > Dave but one that no one in the voting on namespaces favoured. > > If we go by the votes, this is resolved for the simple /ns/prof/. Also, > the slash URI, which was the form voted for, is my and Rob’s preferred > form and has recent precedence with the SOSA and SSN ontologies using it. > > Nick > > *Nicholas Car* > > /Senior Experimental Scientist/ > > CSIRO Land & Water > > E nicholas.car@csiro.au <mailto:nicholas.car@csiro.au> M 0477 560 177 > <tel:0477%20560%20177> P 07 3833 5632 > > Dutton Park, QLD, Australia > > > On 17 Nov 2018, at 4:31 am, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net > <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>> wrote: > >> I am reminded by Dave Raggett that the /ns/ namespace requires a group >> identifier level to avoid name collisions. He recommends that we use >> /ns/dx/, so a namespace for the profiles ontology would be: >> >> https://www.w3.org/ns/dx/prof >> >> Note that the namespace for DCAT is: >> >> http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat# >> >> We can have the slash vs hash discussion since there is no need for prof >> to follow the dcat example. >> >> Would it be possible to put off the final decision for this for the >> future, or do folks feel a need to resolve this for the FPWD of prof? >> >> kc >> >> On 11/15/18 8:29 AM, Karen Coyle wrote: >>> Here's the last email in the thread, AFAI can determine: >>> >>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2018Nov/0286.html >>> >>> For the documents, that gives: >>> >>> https://www.w3.org/TR/prof >>> https://www.w3.org/TR/prof-guidance >>> https://www.w3.org/TR/prof-conneg >>> >>> For the RDF/OWL namespace(s), so far we have: >>> >>> http(s)://www.w3.org/ns/prof >>> <http://www.w3.org/ns/prof>/<http://www.w3.org/ns/prof/> >>> >>> I will put on the agenda to vote on these at the next meeting, although >>> I know that the editors need an answer immediately. Therefore, if >>> necessary please use these short names in the documents knowing that >>> they could be changed (and anyone who has objections MUST reply to this >>> email ASAP). >>> >>> kc >>> >>> On 11/13/18 3:06 PM, Car, Nicholas (L&W, Dutton Park) wrote: >>>> It wasn't actually addressed in the meeting but I agree Andrea is >>>> representing the mailing list consensus. >>>> >>>> Nick >>>> >>>> >>>> On 14/11/18, 8:59 am, "andrea.perego@ec.europa.eu >>>> <mailto:andrea.perego@ec.europa.eu>" <andrea.perego@ec.europa.eu >>>> <mailto:andrea.perego@ec.europa.eu>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Karen, all, >>>> >>>> I may have missed it, but it is unclear to me which is the final >>>> decision about the URLs for PROF and PROF-CONNEG. >>>> >>>> Based on the discussion on the mailing list, my understanding is >>>> that there's a kind of agreement for >>>> >>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/prof >>>> >>>> and >>>> >>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/prof-conneg >>>> >>>> respectively. >>>> >>>> Is this correct? If this is the case, please note that >>>> PROF-CONNEG still has >>>> >>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/conneg-by-ap >>>> >>>> (see https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/conneg-by-ap). >>>> >>>> I'm going to create a PR to fix this. >>>> >>>> Andrea >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Andrea Perego, Ph.D. >>>> Scientific / Technical Project Officer >>>> European Commission DG JRC >>>> Directorate B - Growth and Innovation >>>> Unit B6 - Digital Economy >>>> Via E. Fermi, 2749 - TP 262 >>>> 21027 Ispra VA, Italy >>>> >>>> https://ec.europa.eu/jrc/ >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may >>>> not in any circumstances be regarded as stating an official >>>> position of the European Commission. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Karen Coyle [mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net] >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 4:35 PM >>>> To: public-dxwg-wg@w3.org <mailto:public-dxwg-wg@w3.org> >>>> Subject: ACTION on ALL - FPWDs >>>> >>>> All, >>>> >>>> We have two documents that are ready to be issued as First Public >>>> Working Drafts,[1] [2] and we want to promote them to this at the >>>> meeting on November 13.[3] The ACTION on everyone is to READ these >>>> documents and let us know IMMEDIATELY if you see a serious >>>> problem that >>>> would keep either of these from being published. Remember that a >>>> FPWD is >>>> a DRAFT and that anything can change in future drafts. The purpose of >>>> the draft is to solicit comments from the community on the >>>> direction of >>>> the work. >>>> >>>> You can also comment on the content of the drafts where you see >>>> the need >>>> for modifications to future drafts, and we will create github >>>> issues and >>>> discuss these, but these comments will not delay the FPWD. >>>> >>>> We will take a consensus vote on these at the meeting. If you are >>>> sending regrets, please also let us know how you would vote on >>>> these drafts: >>>> >>>> +1 issue as FPWD >>>> 0 abstain (but don't object) >>>> -1 object (and give your reason in enough detail that it can be >>>> addressed) >>>> >>>> kc >>>> [1] https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/conneg-by-ap/ >>>> [2] https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/profilesont/ >>>> [3] https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2018.11.13 >>>> -- >>>> Karen Coyle >>>> kcoyle@kcoyle.net <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net> http://kcoyle.net >>>> m: 1-510-435-8234 (Signal) >>>> skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Karen Coyle >> kcoyle@kcoyle.net <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net> http://kcoyle.net >> m: 1-510-435-8234 (Signal) >> skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600 >> -- Karen Coyle kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 (Signal) skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
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