Re: [dxwg] property profileOfTransitive

@kcoyle said "I do see a possibility to create a profile guidance that is parallel to DCAT, and I also see a possibility to create a general definition of profiles that is not directly related to DCAT. However, I think these are two different efforts, and we will need to decide which we will deliver."

The Profiles Ontology, and the Guidance document, aren't tied to DCAT so we should be creating general definitions of profiles. Having said that, there's nothing that I can see in DCAT's formulation of things that is problematic for profiling so we should also be able to have "profile guidance that is parallel to DCAT" too in so far as `Dataset` relates to `Distributions` and `Profile` relates to `Resource Descriptors`.

Having a profile abstracted from its artefacts paralleling a Dataset abstracted from its Distributions, as @rob-metalinkage says above, is the flexible, sensible way of modelling things. DCAT makes the split for this purpose.

@kcoyle daid "...someone with a "physical" profile document (pdf, txt, whatever) but who hasn't encountered DCAT dataset/distribution concepts may find it intuitive to consider that file to be a profile.".

Sure, and when not talking about their document with the precision a formal ontology brings, that might be fine. But when they come to formally define things and perhaps when their profile becomes a bit more complex and powerful (e.g. wanting to create a schematron file from the PDF and use the PDF for Guidance, the schematron for Validation) then they abstract the notion of the Profile away from the 'physical' document.

The Geoscience Australia Profile (of ISO19115-1) is a good case in point: the *profile* used to informally refer to a Guidance document which was then put up in the GA catalogue in DOCX and PDF forms (http://pid.geoscience.gov.au/dataset/ga/122551), so then they had effectively a conceptual Profile (Dataset) and Profile Descriptors (Distributions). Now, GA have put their profile up as a bundle of things: an overview web page (http://pid.geoscience.gov.au/def/schema/ga/ISO19115-1-2014), code lists, schematron files, XSDs etc. The Profiles Ont is able to describe the GA Profile at all stages.

@makxdekkers - agree! you posted that as I was typing this out!

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