RE: [Minutes] 2017 06 19

Thanks, Phil.

I'm afraid not all regrets have been recorded - see:

https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2017.06.19

Cheers,

Andrea

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From: Phil Archer [phila@w3.org]
Sent: 19 June 2017 17:43
To: public-dxwg-wg@w3.org
Subject: [Minutes] 2017 06 19

The minutes of today's DXWG call are at
https://www.w3.org/2017/06/19-dxwg-minutes with a snapshot below. Again,
my apologies for not being there but I am in Paris talking about sharing
research data.


                            DXWG Weekly Telco

19 June 2017

    [2]Agenda [3]IRC log

       [2] https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2017.06.19
       [3] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/19-dxwg-irc

Attendees

    Present
           antoine, Caroline_, DavidBrowning, Jaroslav_Pullmann,
           kcoyle, mathieu, nandana, newton, PWinstanley, Rob
           Atkinson, shepazu, SumitPurohit

    Regrets
           Phil

    Chair
           Caroline_

    Scribe
           roba

Contents

      * [4]Meeting Minutes
      * [5]Summary of Resolutions

Meeting Minutes

    <Caroline_> [6]https://www.w3.org/2017/06/12-dxwg-minutes

   https://www.w3.org/2017/06/12-dxwg-minutes

    +1

    <Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1

    <erics> +0 wasn't here

    <newton> +1

    <Caroline_> +1

    Resolved: accepted minutes

    kcoyle; Three sub-groups - Use Cases, DCAT, application profile

    Ixchecl_F: updated Use Case template
    … question - separating out identification of stakeholders
    … proposes to carry out - no objections heard

    <Caroline_> roba: some of the use cases we haven't had the
    chance to discuss yet

    <Jaroslav_Pullmann> [7]https://docs.google.com/document/d/
    1z8UVjMEPoqp69ZHXk6asY6tCHHECglk4-3Lznd5dxS0/
    edit#heading=h.cmfhj7ago0ev

       [7]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z8UVjMEPoqp69ZHXk6asY6tCHHECglk4-3Lznd5dxS0/edit#heading=h.cmfhj7ago0ev

    roba: Generalised versions of Use Cases ID4 and ID6

    kcoyle: can we make a link from wiki - needs to be publicly
    visible

    <kcoyle> [8]https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/
    Use_Case_Working_Space#Data_Quality_Vocabulary_.28DQV.29_Wish_L
    ist_left_by_the_DWBP_WG

       [8]
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Data_Quality_Vocabulary_.28DQV.29_Wish_List_left_by_the_DWBP_WG

    kcoyle: some Use Cases have multiple Use Cases implied - can
    these be teased out?

    <kcoyle> roba: link could be to use case document or add new
    use cases, or edit use cases as provided

    <kcoyle> roba: or new document for agreed use cases

    Jaroslav_Pullmann: not planning to rewrite raw inputs

    kcoyle: consolidated document needs to be on github
    … single place to do that

    proposed consolidated use cases for voting on?

    kcoyle: F2F focus on consolidating Use Cases
    … high priority

    Caroline_: migrate to github with tracking ?

    +1 to consolidate - but how to promote consolidated versions
    over "raw inputs?"

    Happy to move generalised and voted-on cases to a new wiki page

    <Caroline_> roba: propose to create another wiki page with the
    use cases

    <Caroline_> ... the ones that are being discussed and voted by
    the group

    Jaroslav_Pullmann: use status tags?

    <Caroline_> roba: I prefer to consolidate the agreed versions
    in one place

    <erics> Could it be SumitPurohit?

    <erics> Hi Sumit :-)

    <SumitPurohit> Hi Everyone :-)

    <Caroline_> [9]https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/
    Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_agent_roles

       [9]
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_agent_roles

    <kcoyle> We don't at this time have a place for comments on use
    cases, although that would be a good idea

    <kcoyle> roba: need to cover common cases; using blank nodes
    are hard to query against

    <kcoyle> ... but need to weigh flexibility

    <kcoyle> ... this is something we can use in other use cases
    where there is a general need and some people need something
    special

    <kcoyle> +1

    Jaroslav_Pullmann: supports minimal set of common properties -
    but problem is the many forms this takes - is it a case for
    application profiles

    kcoyle: need a straw man proposal for the simple common agent
    roles.

    roba: defining roles a solution issue no t a UC responsibility

    <Caroline_> [10]https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/
    Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_agent_roles

      [10]
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_agent_roles

    PROPOSAL: Accept UC ID13 with edits to address the commonality
    of the pattern of common properties and detailed descriptions
    in profiles, and the need to agree a list of roles in the
    specificaton process

    <kcoyle> PROPOSAL: Accept UC ID13 with requirement to create an
    agreed list of roles for DCAT with the remainder for profiles

    roba: lost issue of using a common mechanism for
    simple/extended definitions
    … add as requirement?

    kcoyle: perhaps a new Use Case as a placeholder

    <kcoyle> +1

    +1

    <antoine> +1

    <Caroline_> +1

    <Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1

    <newton> +1

    <nandana> +1

    <mathieu> +1

    <SumitPurohit> +1

    <DavidBrowning> +1

    <erics> +1

    <present__Ixchel_F_> +1

    <PWinstanley> +1

    Resolved: Accept UC ID13 with requirement to create an agreed
    list of roles for DCAT with the remainder for profiles

    roba: how do we review edits? I will copy to consolidated UC
    doc -

    <Caroline_> [11]https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/
    Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_funding_sources

      [11]
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_funding_sources

    Caroline_: we will then vote at next meeting if necessary

    antoine: please send a email to the group when new edited
    version published.

    is this more a job for a specialised vocabulary?

    Jaroslav_Pullmann: sub-use case of agent role

    <kcoyle> good catch!

    PWinstanley: agree - need opportunity for hierarchy of agents
    … needs a controlled list - authority list

    <PWinstanley> +1 to Antoine's comment

    antoine: not a hierarchy of types of agents, but one of roles

    kcoyle: great deal of information about a funding source
    … therefore about the role, not the funding information

    <kcoyle> roba: detail of funding role is not limited to DCAT -
    could be specialized vocabulary

    <Caroline_> roba: funding role is not limited to DCAT

    <kcoyle> ... trick here is to have extension point in profiles

    <Caroline_> Me ID31

    <Caroline_> [12]https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/
    Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_funding_sources

      [12]
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_funding_sources

    <Caroline_> the first was ID13 [13]https://www.w3.org/2017/
    dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_agent_roles

      [13]
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_agent_roles

    PROPOSAL: edit ID13 update to include case of funding source
    identification as an example

    <kcoyle> +1

    <Caroline_> +1

    <Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1

    <newton> +1

    <erics> +1

    <DavidBrowning> +1

    <nandana> +1

    <PWinstanley> +1

    <antoine> +1

    <SumitPurohit> +1

    Jaroslav_Pullmann: noes this is provenance

    +1

    <present__Ixchel_F_> +1

    Resolved: edit ID13 update to include case of funding source
    identification as an example

    <kcoyle> [14]https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/
    Oxford_Attendance_and_logistics

      [14] https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Oxford_Attendance_and_logistics

    Caroline_: reminder to put F2F attendance on wiki

    bye

    <DavidBrowning> exit

    <Caroline_> bye! :)

    <DavidBrowning> bye

    <SumitPurohit> Bye..

Summary of Resolutions

     1. [15]accepted minutes
     2. [16]Accept UC ID13 with requirement to create an agreed
        list of roles for DCAT with the remainder for profiles
     3. [17]edit ID13 update to include case of funding source
        identification as an example

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