- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 22:48:07 +0100
- To: public-dxwg-comments@w3.org
The minutes of today's kick off meeting are at https://www.w3.org/2017/05/18-dxwg-minutes.html with a text snapshot below. Thanks for such a good turn out today. Dataset Exchange Working Group Weekly teclo 18 May 2017 [2]Agenda [3]IRC log [2] https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Kick_Off_Meeting [3] http://www.w3.org/2017/05/18-dxwg-irc Attendees Present Achille_Zappa, alejandra, AndreaPerego, annette_g, ByronCinNZ, Caroline_, chile, colleen, DaveBrowning, ericstephan, Jacco, LarsG, Martin_B, mdaquin, MJ_Han, nandana_, newton, phila, PWinstanley, RiccardoAlbertoni, RubenVerborgh, SimonCox Chair Karen, Caroline Scribe phila Contents * [4]Meeting Minutes 1. [5]Introductions 2. [6]Use Cases 3. [7]Regular meeting slot Meeting Minutes Introductions kcoyle: Let's get started... kcoyle: This is the DXWG. Looks like folks are all on IRC and WebEx - you need to be on both kcoyle: The WG has 3 main deliverables (from charter) <Jaroslav_Pullmann> present Jaroslav_Pullmann kcoyle: Timeline is ca. 2 years … Note that the last 4-6 months is taken up by a lot of process requirements, so we're looking at getting the bulk of the work done by the end of 2018 kcoyle: With 3 separate deliverables... we can break into subgroups, we can work in one group. … Expect to meet for an hour a week … We'll discuss timing shortly kcoyle: Introduces self. From DCMI Caroline_: Introduces self <Caroline_> kcoyle and Caroline are the Chairs phila: Introduces self <Caroline_> phila is the W3C team contact achille_z: Introduces self from INSIGHT Centre, Galway. … Interested in the DCAT part - INSIGHT is what was DERI which is where DCAT came from originally. alejandra: Introduces self, Uni Oxford, eResearch Centre. … Interested in all deliverables. Looking at DCAT. We've been looking at NIH funded portal and more AndreaPerego: Introduces self, from European Commission's JRC … author of geoDCAT-AP … aspects of metadata interop across domains interest me … And use of DCAT for research data. We run the corporate catalogue at JRC annette_g: Introduces from LBNL. Interested in profile aspects. work for national energy sci community ByronCinNZ: Introduces self from Internal Affairs in NZ … Also interestec in conneg by profile <SimonCox> note it is 02:15 for Byron right now chile: Is actually Markus Friedberg from Uni Leipzig colleen: From research data service at uni Illinois DaveB: Introduces self from Thomson Reuters … Mostly interested in DCAT and profile handling … number of initiatives focussing on content ecosystems and how they might work in automated ways. ericstephan: Introduces self from PNNL. Interested in DCAT, also scientific realm, seeing where APs can go Jacco: From CWI in Amsterdam … Interested in research data management Jaroslav_Pullmann: Jaroslav_Pullmann and Christian Mader from Fraunhofer. Both involved in Industrial Data Space project. Extension of DCAT towards dynamic distribution patterns … Lots of interests DaveB: pleased to hear all that LarsG: From DNB. Interested in all 3. The profile negotiation which is what I'm here to work on. Makx? <annette_g> maybe type something, Makx? Makx: Independent consultant. Working in metadata throughout career, including DCMI … Been involved in APs since we coined the term way back … Was a member of the WG that worked in DCAT and DWBP. Also I'm editor of the EC's DCAT-AP and more Martin_B: From Eccenca … Worked with Markus at Uni Leipzig on Data ID. Interetsed in implementing this in our work. mathieu: From INSIGHT Centre in Galway (with Achille) … Interetsed in extending DCAT for data consumers, relations between datasets etc. … Have done work in education and smart cities. MJ_Han: From Illinois. Interested in 2nd deliverable <annette_g> presnet+ annette_g <Makx> I hear people refer to three deliverables, but there are four deliverables at [8]https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/ Main_Page [8] https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Main_Page nandana_: From Uni Pol Madrid. Working Data quality and description newton: Works with Caroline_ at Nic.br. Worked on DWBP with many folks here. Interestec in conneg Ixcell: At UCLC. Study what people need to know for dataset assessment … Newly joined member so it's all new PWinstanley: From Scottish Gov, based in Glasgow. Interested in the 3 deliverables. … Made early assessment of DCAT a while back. Have written guides on it. Was a member of DWBP and Share-PSI project <MJ_Han> For deliverables: [9]https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/ charter#deliverables [9] https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/charter#deliverables <Makx> OK, I see thare are three deliverables at [10]https:// www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/charter, yes. [10] https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/charter, RiccardoAlbertoni: Researcher in CNR Italy … Interested especially in data and linkset quality. Was a member of the DWBP and was a co-editor of the data quality vocab. Interetsed in all 3 deliverables RubenVerborgh: From Ghent University – imec … Interest in low level tech - how clients and servers can agree … So mostly working on the 3rd part with Lars SimonCox: With CSIRO. It's 00:30 Friday for me … Works in Land and Water on Environmental data, working for years in data description. Especially interested in scope of DCAT, potential around data lifecycle etc. <ByronCinNZ> No problem! KateRoberts: At BOM. Background in metadata, libraries etc. Use Cases kcoyle: WGs always start with use cases. We need use cases … it's advised that these UCs be real, something you're doing or attempting to do … We have set up a wiki page <kcoyle> [11]https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/ Use_Case_Working_Space [11] https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space kcoyle: Need to know who you are, if it pertains to specific deliverables. Links to documents and projects are good. And what requirements arise from these. … The UCs will be discussed by the WG and accepted or not … And a Use Case document will be part of our deliverables … This means that we need one or more editors for the Use Cases and Requirements Document (UCR) … Make sense of the UCs, do the formatting etc. … There are people here who have expereince of how this works - help is at hand … It would be good if we could have a volunteer early … The UCR doc is one of the easier editing jobs you can havea in a WG. If you don't expect to be an editor in one of the primary docs, this is a good one to do. … Please let us know, post to the list etc. … It would be good to have a good body of use cases before the next meeting … It sounds as if people already have quite a bit to say Caroline_: Just to add - some people are new, so if you are an editor, it doesn't mean you can't also edit anotehr doc kcoyle: We won't stop you doing more work <Caroline_> to get into the queue type q+ <Caroline_> phila: IRC is very important :) Jaroslav_Pullmann: What is the gathering process. Edit the wiki? kcoyle: Yes, please just add to the wiki page kcoyle: That wiki page is a draft area <alejandra_> question: can we all edit the wiki page? Caroline_: 2 things - the wiki page is editable by everyone in the WG Caroline_: Also, Karen and I will always post the agenda for each meeting at least 24 hours ahead of the meeting. You can always send us agenda items <kcoyle> ? annette_g: Should we try and focus use cases towards specific tasks kcoyle: I wish I could answer that definitively. I think most UCs might tend towards one task, but it may pertain to all three. Regular meeting slot kcoyle: We have had a discussion about this on e-mail. … Simon you wanted to make a case for a meeting time? SimonCox: I think Andrea also supported ... with such a distribution, it's hard to get a time that suits everyone <AndreaPerego> +1 (California to New Zealand) SimonCox: If people in Europe are willing to work in the evening (before midnight), Australisia can get up earlier <Zakim> RubenVerborgh, you wanted to propose a simple Doodle SimonCox: I suggest 20:00 UTC is probably the only choice <SimonCox> [12]https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ meetingtime.html?iso=20170518&p1=264&p2=152&p3=157&p4=136&p5=26 3&p6=64&p7=224 [12] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20170518&p1=264&p2=152&p3=157&p4=136&p5=263&p6=64&p7=224 RubenVerborgh: Why don't we do a big Doodle kcoyle: I assume we'll do another Doodle <alejandra_> can someone send a link to documentation for IRC , please? <Zakim> annette_g, you wanted to make a suggestion <SimonCox> Don't like alternating :-( I wwas going to propose alternate times <SimonCox> Lose momentum, no predictability <RubenVerborgh> also, if we split into subgroups, might not be too much of a problem? <RubenVerborgh> so maybe good to discuss that early on? <Makx> I just created a use case. Is that the way to do it? <kcoyle> ? <Makx> [13]https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/ Use_Case_Working_Space [13] https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space ericstephan: I was just going to agree with Annette on alternating times ericstephan: The concern is that it splits the group <AndreaPerego> Same concern here. Caroline_: I think Eric said something important and I was going to say something similar. We can meet at 2 different times, 20:00 UTC is one of the times, anotehr s the one we have met today … Then it's important that we decide the dates already … Maybe next week we meet at 20:00 UTC and then back to this time … But we need to have a regular pattern so people can plan. SimonCox: I will say that alternating times are bad. It always splits the group. SimonCox: I think it's likely that we'll split into multiple parallel groups anda then the possibility is that the sub groups will find it easier to schedule meetings phila: +1 to Simon <AndreaPerego> +1 to SimonCox <Makx> I don't have a problems with 2000UTC <Caroline_> +1 to I don't have a problems with 2000UTC kcoyle: We haven't talked about how we'll organise ourselves but as Simon says, it's likely we'll have sub groups. kcoyle: Any more questions on the use cases? Jaroslav_Pullmann: Who is the contact to get the UCs consistent kcoyle: The WG really does need to agree to the UCs <SimonCox> Re questions: best if all mail goes to group email reflector - transparency, record-keeping <SimonCox> +1 to Caroline_ Jaroslav_Pullmann: What I saw with other groups, was the need to cluster the use cases - to make UCs comparable and to be able to elaborate kcoyle: That's what the editor(s) will do <Zakim> Caroline_, you wanted to add the importance of always writing to the mailing list Caroline_: It is important to always communicate via the mailing list … This might be frightening for some people - it was for me at first - but it's the only way to keep the conversation going and people involved SimonCox: I presume the assumption is that we'll be using the Issue tracker and Actions? <RubenVerborgh> Added 2 use cases as well. SimonCox: But I'll note that we've got tangled up with GH Issues. Some issues are in both places, some only in one. … I think the WWG needs to establish a plan kcoyle: Yes, we'll need to decide which to use. <Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about ReSpec adn GH <RubenVerborgh> You can link commit/pull request to issue by including "Closes #37" in the commit message's extended info. <Zakim> RubenVerborgh, you wanted to ask what the advantage of the actions tracker is <Caroline_> phila: Github doesn't have an action tracker the same way IRC has kcoyle: Thanks everyone for joining today. We will resolve the issue of the call timing ASAP. And we'll post a mail about the UCs very soon. <RiccardoAlbertoni> bye see you next week <AndreaPerego> Thanks, and bye! <Makx> bye <annette_g> bye all! <ByronCinNZ> bye <RubenVerborgh> bye bye! <LarsG> bye <nandana_> Bye!
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