Re: AW: AW: Progress on Issue-223 - parameters in DQV

Dear Werner,

Thanks a lot for the feedback! Your feedback has really helped us to make the document better, I think.

Cheers,

Antoine

On 05/09/16 18:06, Bailer, Werner wrote:
> Dear Antoine,
>
> many thanks for the revision, I agree that it reads better now.
>
> Best regards,
> Werner
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Antoine Isaac [mailto:aisaac@few.vu.nl]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. August 2016 19:48
> An: Bailer, Werner
> Cc: Public DWBP WG
> Betreff: Re: AW: Progress on Issue-223 - parameters in DQV
>
> Dear Werner, all,
>
> It's been a long while, but I could finally go back to the Appendix on parameters in DQV.
> I have tried to fold in your suggestions on headings and order. It was not easy, but I think it reads better now. Thank for your input!
>
> The current version is at
> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html#Parameters
> Your feedback is not necessary, but it would be welcome as always.
>
> Best,
>
> Antoine
>
> On 08/07/16 13:18, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>> Hi Werner,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback!
>> These points make sense. I will try to had some more structure in the section.
>> Regarding the order of issues, I actually started the appendix a bit as you suggested: first thinking of the meta-modeling to indicate that some properties are parameters, and then constraints. But in the process I realized that the meta-modeling was actually not so interesting - if just because it has not much impact on the solutions for expressing constraints. So I felt it was weird starting from something less important, and something that 'gains' its lower importance from the other part that should hence ideally appear earlier in the doc. I'm going to re-think this again...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>> On 29/06/16 16:43, Bailer, Werner wrote:
>>> Dear Antoine, all,
>>>
>>> thanks for this update. Here are some thoughts on the new appendix.
>>>
>>> The introduction states that different options are discussed, but not everything that follows are options for the same problem, but there are two different aspects. The first one is about expressing restrictions for (mandatory) properties of metrics and/or measurements (I agree that there are different possible solutions, and there's none that fits all). The second is about expressing that a property is a parameter of a measurement or metric, which is a related aspect, but both can also be treated independently.
>>>
>>> Thus I would suggest to make it clearer in the introduction and maybe by adding one more level of headings which part of the text deals with which aspect. In addition, I would find it more logical to first have the aspect of identifying the type of a property (as I consider it the more basic and less strict definition), and then go to the aspect of verifiable restrictions about the use of properties (which is a stricter enforcement of constraints).
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Werner
>>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Antoine Isaac [mailto:aisaac@few.vu.nl]
>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Juni 2016 13:14
>>> An: Public DWBP WG; Debattista, Jeremy; Bailer, Werner
>>> Betreff: Progress on Issue-223 - parameters in DQV
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Riccardo and I have been working on solutions for handling parameters in DQC, following feedback received on the drafts. From Werner and Jeremy, mostly [1].
>>>
>>> As we're not approaching final publication time, we'd like to close the issue. The progress made has been:
>>>
>>> - solutions to use paramaters in 'instance' DQV data presented in section 5.10 [2]
>>>
>>> - an Appendix about the meta-modeling aspects of parameters - or more precisely why we've done none of it [3]
>>>
>>> The former has been around for a while, and as far as I remember it's been accepted.
>>> The latter is fresh from this week.
>>> In any case everyone's feedback is welcome. Actually while writing this I realize the title of 5.10 could be clearer that this section contains info about parameters...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/223
>>> [2] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html#ExpressQualLinkset
>>> [3] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html#Parameters
>>>
>>>
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