Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on Bundled Commitment on IODC & National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data Revolution for Sustainable Development

Excellent.  We now have pledges from Junar, NuCivic, and CKAN to support
the Data Usage Vocabulary and integrate Open Data Utility Metadata into
Open Data Portals.

We hope that Socrata will also join in supporting this step forward and
that all of you will provide feedback on the emerging draft of the
standard.  We (W3C Data on the Web Best Practices WG) will come back to you
soon with a request for comment.

Thank You!!!

Best Regards,

Steve

Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again"



From:	Adrià Mercader <adria.mercader@okfn.org>
To:	Jo Barratt <jo.barratt@okfn.org>
Cc:	Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, "rufus.pollock@okfn.org"
            <rufus.pollock@okfn.org>, Barbara Ubaldi
            <Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org>, Bernadette Farias Lóscio
            <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>, Carlos Iglesias
            <carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org>, Daniel Dietrich
            <daniel.dietrich@okfn.org>, "diego.may@junar.com"
            <diego.may@junar.com>, "Jose M. Alonso"
            <josema@webfoundation.org>, Kevin Merritt
            <kevin.merritt@socrata.com>, Marcio Vasconcelos
            <Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net>,
            "ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net"
            <odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net>, Phil Archer
            <phila@w3.org>, DWBP Public List <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>, Rich
            Robbins <rich@nucivic.com>, Sid Burgess
            <Sid.Burgess@govdelivery.com>, sumandro
            <sumandro@cis-india.org>, Tim Davies
            <tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>, "Zeitz, Paul S"
            <ZeitzPS@state.gov>, Andrew Hoppin <andrew@nucivic.com>,
            Timothy Grant Herzog <therzog1@worldbank.org>, Amparo Ballivian
            <aballivian@worldbank.org>, Katelyn Rogers
            <katelyn.rogers@okfn.org>
Date:	09/28/2015 07:41 AM
Subject:	Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on
            Bundled Commitment on IODC & National Consultation/Roadmap on
            the Data Revolution for Sustainable Development



Hi all,

My name is Adrià Mercader, I work for Open Knowledge and I'm a member of
the CKAN core tech team. I'll be happy to help coordinate in any way we can
to make CKAN support whatever spec is agreed for Dataset Usage monitoring.

Best,

Adrià

On 28 September 2015 at 10:04, Jo Barratt <jo.barratt@okfn.org> wrote:
  Hi Adria,

  Can you have a peruse of this when you have a moment and let me know what
  you think?


  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
  From: Katelyn Rogers <katelyn.rogers@okfn.org>
  Date: 25 September 2015 at 14:10
  Subject: Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on
  Bundled Commitment on IODC & National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data
  Revolution for Sustainable Development
  To: Amparo Ballivian <aballivian@worldbank.org>
  Cc: Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com>, "rufus.pollock@okfn.org" <
  rufus.pollock@okfn.org>, Barbara Ubaldi <Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org>,
  Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>, Carlos Iglesias <
  carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org>, Daniel Dietrich <
  daniel.dietrich@okfn.org>, "diego.may@junar.com" <diego.may@junar.com>,
  "Jose M. Alonso" <josema@webfoundation.org>, Kevin Merritt <
  kevin.merritt@socrata.com>, Marcio Vasconcelos <
  Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net>, "ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" <
  odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net>, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>, DWBP
  Public List <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>, Rich Robbins <rich@nucivic.com>, Sid
  Burgess <Sid.Burgess@govdelivery.com>, sumandro <sumandro@cis-india.org>,
  Tim Davies <tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>, "Zeitz, Paul S" <
  ZeitzPS@state.gov>, Andrew Hoppin <andrew@nucivic.com>, Timothy Grant
  Herzog <therzog1@worldbank.org>, Jo Barratt <jo.barratt@okfn.org>


  Hi Amparo, Steven and others!

  Great to see this discussion happening! As Rufus is traveling at the
  moment and may be slow to respond, I have cc'ed my colleague Jo Barratt
  who coordinates a good deal of the work on CKAN and liaises with the CKAN
  Association. I will let him follow up!

  All the best,
  Katelyn

  On 23 September 2015 at 18:02, Amparo Ballivian <aballivian@worldbank.org
  > wrote:


   Steven,

   As far as I know, Rufus Pollock is the President of Open Knowledge
   (formerly Open Knowledge Foundation). I copy him here.

   BTW, I think having standard metadata for open data is an awesome idea.
   FYI, the standard metadata for microdata (surveys and census) is DDI. We
   are financing a CKAN module to support DDI metadata of open microdata.
   My colleague Tim Herzog is in charge of that, so I copy him as well.

   Best

   Amparo

   From: Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:32 AM
   To: Andrew Hoppin
   Cc: Barbara Ubaldi; Bernadette Farias Lóscio; Carlos Iglesias; Daniel
   Dietrich; diego.may@junar.com; Jose M. Alonso; Kevin Merritt; Marcio
   Vasconcelos; ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net; Phil Archer; DWBP
   Public List; Rich Robbins; Sid Burgess; sumandro; Tim Davies; Zeitz,
   Paul S; Katelyn Rogers
   Subject: RE: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on
   Bundled Commitment on IODC & National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data
   Revolution for Sustainable Development



   Super! That's 2 out of 4.

   Katelyn, could you put us in touch with whomever is "running" CKAN at
   Open Knowledge Foundation to see if they would be interested in joining
   Junar and NuCivic in their support of Open Data Standard Metadata to
   measure aggregate utilization?

   Thanks Andrew!


   Best Regards,

   Steve

   Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again"

   Andrew Hoppin ---09/23/2015 11:26:17 AM---Steve, Phil, Diego, Count us
   in.  This seems to us extremely important work, and we'd like to roll




   From: Andrew Hoppin <andrew@nucivic.com>
   To: Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, Diego May <diego.may@junar.com>
   Cc: Barbara Ubaldi <Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org>, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <
   bfl@cin.ufpe.br>, "Carlos Iglesias" <carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org>,
   Daniel Dietrich <daniel.dietrich@okfn.org>, "Jose M. Alonso" <
   josema@webfoundation.org>, Kevin Merritt <kevin.merritt@socrata.com>,
   Marcio Vasconcelos <Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net>, "
   ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" <
   odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net>, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>, "DWBP
   Public List" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>, sumandro <sumandro@cis-india.org>,
   "Tim Davies" <tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>, "Zeitz, Paul S" <
   ZeitzPS@state.gov>, Rich Robbins <rich@nucivic.com>, Sid Burgess <
   Sid.Burgess@govdelivery.com>
   Date: 09/23/2015 11:26 AM
   Subject: RE: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on
   Bundled Commitment on IODC & National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data
   Revolution for Sustainable Development





   Steve, Phil, Diego,

   Count us in.  This seems to us extremely important work, and we'd like
   to roll up our sleeves and help, and to support natively in DKAN any
   new Dataset Usage Vocabulary that may be established.

   Best,
   Andrew


   From: Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com>
   Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:35 AM
   To: Diego May
   Cc: Andrew Hoppin; Barbara Ubaldi; Bernadette Farias Lóscio; Carlos
   Iglesias; Daniel Dietrich; Jose M. Alonso; Kevin Merritt; Marcio
   Vasconcelos; ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net; Phil Archer; DWBP
   Public List; sumandro; Tim Davies; Zeitz, Paul S
   Subject: Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on
   Bundled Commitment on IODC & National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data
   Revolution for Sustainable Development

   Great.  We are happy to share our Vocabulary draft with Junar and hope
   that NuCivic, Socrata, and CKAN will also participate.  Furthermore, we
   hope that members of the Open Data Charter Stewardship Group will also
   provide input.

   Thanks Diego!


   Best Regards,

   Steve

   Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again"

   Diego  May ---09/15/2015 11:29:53 AM---Hi all, I do agree in the
   importance of talking about OD utilization, statistics,


   From:
   Diego May <diego.may@junar.com>
   To:
   Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br
   >
   Cc:
   Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>, Andrew Hoppin <andrew@nucivic.com>, Barbara
   Ubaldi <Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org>, Carlos Iglesias <
   carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org>, Daniel Dietrich <
   daniel.dietrich@okfn.org>, "Jose M. Alonso" <josema@webfoundation.org>,
   Kevin Merritt <kevin.merritt@socrata.com>, Marcio Vasconcelos <
   Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net>, "ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" <
   odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net>, DWBP Public List <
   public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>, sumandro <sumandro@cis-india.org>, Tim Davies  <
   tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>, "Zeitz, Paul S" <ZeitzPS@state.gov>

   Date:
   09/15/2015 11:29 AM
   Subject:
   Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on Bundled
   Commitment on IODC & National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data
   Revolution for Sustainable Development



   Hi all,

   I do agree in the importance of talking about OD utilization,
   statistics, metadata and more. Just let me know if there is any call or
   any specific question we can work on to help.

   Have a great day,

   Diego

   Diego May
   Co-founder & CEO
     Junar, Open Data Made Simple
     Twitter @Junar @diegomay :: Blog Blog.junar.com :: Linkedin Diegohmay
      Post acerca de Datos Abiertos :: ¿Cambiará  la democracia en próximos
   años?

   On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <
   bfl@cin.ufpe.br> wrote:  Hi Steve,

   Thanks a lot for helping us to share and promote our activities on
   the Dataset Usage Vocab. We are working on a new version of the vocab
   and as soon as a more stable version is available, we're  gonna share
   this with the group.

   We aim to produce a vocab that's gonna be really  helpful and for
   this It is important to gather feedback from the community!

   cheers,
   Bernadette




   2015-09-14 12:06 GMT-03:00 Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com>:  Phil,

   Great points.  I hope those on copy will work with us (W3C) to make sure
   our Vocabulary standards have immediate real world impact.


   Best Regards,

   Steve

   Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again"

   Phil Archer ---09/12/2015 02:40:29  AM---The motivation behind
   developing the Dataset Usage Vocab is to avoid  publishers putting their
   data
         From:
   Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>     To:
   Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, "Jose M. Alonso" <
   josema@webfoundation.org>, DWBP Public List  <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
   Cc:
   Barbara Ubaldi <Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org>, Carlos Iglesias <
   carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org>,  Daniel Dietrich <
   daniel.dietrich@okfn.org>, Marcio Vasconcelos <
   Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net>,  "ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" <
   odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net>,  sumandro <sumandro@cis-india.org
   >, Tim Davies <tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>,  "Zeitz, Paul S" <
   ZeitzPS@state.gov>, Andrew Hoppin <andrew@nucivic.com>,  Kevin Merritt <
   kevin.merritt@socrata.com>, Diego May Junar <diego.may@junar.com>
   Date:
   09/12/2015 02:40 AM     Subject:
   Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on  Bundled
   Commitment on IODC & National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data
   Revolution for Sustainable Development



   The motivation behind developing the Dataset Usage Vocab is to avoid
   publishers putting their data behind a registration step. I was talking
   to someone this week about the EU's Copernicus data - a huge trove of
   satellite imagery that the EC trumpets as a great example of open data.
   She was a little non-plussed when I said that, since you have to login
   and fill in a form that tells them what you plan to do with the data, it

   can't be called open.

   So the idea is to create not only a vocab but an incentive for data
   re-users to publish info about what they've used and what they've sued
   it for. I see two incentives:

   - discovery (think schema.org);
   - encouraging the publisher to keep on publishing.

   Being able to 'ask the Web' who's using my data and what is it being
   used for would be good.

   This has some resonance with the research world's activities like
   DataCite, CrossRef etc.

   Phil.


   On 09/09/2015 12:58, Steven Adler wrote:
   >
   > Jose,
   >
   > I don't think we need to organize more sessions at conferences to
   figure
   > out how to measure OD utilization.  Might be easier to just talk to
   > Socrata, Junar, NuCivic, and CKAN folks to organize common utilization
   > metrics.
   >
   > I am adding my W3C Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group
   colleagues
   > to this discussion since standardizing that metadata is within our
   mandate
   > and we are working on Data Quality and Usability Vocabularies.
   >
   > Also adding Kevin Merrit (Socrata), Diego May (Junar), and Andrew
   Hoppin
   > (NuCivic).  I guess there are people already on copy who can represent
   > CKAN.
   >
   > Kevin, Diego, Andrew - We are having a conversation about how to
   measure
   > aggregate Open Data utilization and we wonder if it would be possible
   to
   > agree on common metadata standards that would allow API calls to your
   OD
   > catalogs.  We would like to be able to add OD utilization and quality
   > statistics to common OD Supply Indexes.
   >
   > Sorry to dump you all into this long thread.  But it seems to me that
   right
   > now, while our industry is relatively small, we have the opportunity
   to
   > agree on common standards that could really benefit many interests.
   >
   > Could we ask you for your views on this topic?
   >
   > Best Regards,
   >
   > Steve
   >
   > Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again"
   >
   >
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   > | From:      |
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   >
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   >    |"Jose M. Alonso" <josema@webfoundation.org>
   |
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   >
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   >    |Tim Davies <tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>
   |
   >
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   > |------------>
   > | Cc:        |
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   >
   >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

   >    |Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, Daniel Dietrich <
   daniel.dietrich@okfn.org>, Barbara Ubaldi <Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org>,
   Marcio Vasconcelos           |
   >    |<Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net>, "
   ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net"  <
   odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net>, sumandro <sumandro@cis-india.org>,
   |
   >    |"Zeitz, Paul S" <ZeitzPS@state.gov>, Carlos Iglesias <
   carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org>
   |
   >
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   > | Date:      |
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   >    |09/09/2015 06:41 AM
   |
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   >    |Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on
   Bundled Commitment on IODC & National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data
   Revolution |
   >    |for Sustainable Development
   |
   >
   >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Hi all,
   >
   > I fully agree this is a very important debate and, as Tim mentioned
   and (as
   > most of you know) he's been deeply involved with both the CAF and the
   ODB,
   > we keep on exploring at WF. The paper he referred to was commissioned
   to
   > keeping on exploring the "Use" element.
   >
   > I was also intrigued about the use of household surveys and met with
   the
   > World Justice Project team earlier this year to learn more about their
   > method. They work with local/regional companies and survey thousands
   of
   > people. Besides what Tim mentioned above, two more issues come to
   mind:
   > time requirements and cost. Pew's and WPJ's product are not cheap and
   WPJ's
   > needs 2 years per round. Complexity of the ODB itself has increased
   > already. For example, we have introduced this year government
   > self-assessments as a new data collection component.
   >
   > I believe we all certainly need to improve how we measure "Use" but
   also
   > keeping in mind the perfect might be the enemy of the good.
   >
   > I'm copying my colleague Carlos as he's currently managing the ODB and
   our
   > work on the CAF and may have something else to add.
   >
   > IIRC, we have organized sessions at the last several conferences on
   this
   > topic and we might want to do so again soon, maybe in the context of
   the
   > OGP ODWG meeting at the OGP Summit or on the sides of it as I believe
   most
   > of us will be there.
   >
   > Best,
   > Josema.
   >
   >
   >
   > 2015-09-09 10:12 GMT+02:00 Tim Davies <
   tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>:
   >    This is a really important debate: and if finding good methods for
   >    assessing levels of open data use would be very valuable.
   >
   >
   >    Across the components of the Common Assessment Method for Open Data
   usage
   >    is the least surveyed - in part due to the complexity of finding
   good
   >    robust sampling strategies.
   >
   >    Surveys: Reflecting on Steve's suggestions around surveys:
   >
   >    The best examples we probably have of large scale survey work in
   this
   >    area is either from the Pew Internet Project, which has a
   single-country
   >    US survey capturing American's awareness of Open Government
   Initiatives (
   >    http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/21/open-government-data/), and
   then
   >    the World Justice Project's multi-country survey of major cities,
   which
   >    included a number of questions for their Open Government Index (
   >    http://data.worldjusticeproject.org/opengov/) relating to citizen
   >    perceptions around their use of Right to Information mechanisms.
   >
   >    However, particularly when it comes to getting cross-country
   comparison
   >    data that is sensitive specifically to open data, as opposed to the
   >    presence of an app economy or civic technology in general, it can
   be very
   >    difficult to frame definitions in surveys in ways that produce
   reliable
   >    and comparable data.
   >
   >    One of the issues faced in the Open Data Barometer's 'Impact'
   method,
   >    which broadly combines a measure of use and impact (asking about
   the
   >    presence of stories of open data having an impact in particular
   >    settings), is that countries that spend more resource capturing
   case
   >    studies of use may score higher than countries who have more cases
   of
   >    use, but where those cases are less well documented or promoted.
   Re-use
   >    that doesn't result in high-profile apps and websites is
   particularly
   >    likely to be missed by both expert and public-perception surveys.
   >
   >    From a robust evidence point of view, it's would also be important
   I
   >    think to have independent sampling and data collection: making it
   tricky
   >    to put govts in the middle of asking citizens to fill out surveys.
   >
   >    Other approaches: Two other approaches which might be useful here:
   >
   >    (1) Refining 'data availability' metrics. As Daniel notes, most of
   our
   >    measures of data openness right now are not sensitive enough to
   data
   >    quality.
   >
   >    There is some interesting work on domain-specific measures of
   quality
   >    (e.g. Open Data Watch Inventory - capturing levels of
   disaggregation in
   >    nationals stats:
   >    http://www.opendatawatch.com/Pages/Open-Data-Inventory.aspx), and
   finding
   >    metrics that indicate how re-usable a dataset is likely to be (
   >
   http://www.opendataresearch.org/dl/symposium2015/odrs2015-paper60.pdf).
   >
   >    I've been interested in exploring whether we can find efficient
   methods
   >    for use-case driven testing of the practical openness of datasets
   to
   >    replace/complement the current check-list approaches used in the
   Open
   >    Data Barometer and Index.
   >
   >    (2) Finding and evidencing good proxy variables.
   >
   >    The Open Data Barometer includes variables on civil society
   capacity, and
   >    private sector ICT capacity, in part because it hypothesises that
   these
   >    are important ingredients of enabling re-use.
   >
   >    It would be worth testing this in a number of contexts, and
   exploring
   >    whether there are other better proxy variables to capture factors
   aside
   >    from data quality which are strongly associated with the presence
   of open
   >    data re-use in a country.
   >
   >    ---
   >
   >
   >    All the best
   >
   >    Tim
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >    On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com>
   wrote:
   >     Great.  The normal way to measure utilization is through consumer
   >     preference, but that requires a menu of different consumer choices
   with
   >     price discovery.  We have a free commodity with few market
   alternatives,
   >     therefore our only option is to survey consumer opinions of open
   data
   >     quality, relevance, and value.
   >
   >     Not very sophisticated but it works if we can develop a short
   survey and
   >     get governments to ask users to fill it out anonymously to
   generate
   >     reasonable sample sizes.
   >
   >     What do people think about this?
   >
   >     Best Regards,
   >
   >
   >     Steve Adler
   >     IBM
   >
   >
   >     Daniel Dietrich --- Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA
   ROADMAPS:
   >     Gov of Mex on Bundled Commitment on IODC & National
   Consultation/Roadmap
   >     on the Data Revolution for Sustainable Development ---
   >
   >   From:  "Daniel Dietrich" <daniel.dietrich@okfn.org>
   >
   >   To:    "Steven Adler" <adler1@us.ibm.com>
   >
   >   Cc:    "Barbara Ubaldi" <Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org>, "Jose Manuel
   Alonso" <
   >          josema@webfoundation.org>, "Marcio Vasconcelos" <
   >          Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net>, "
   >          ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" <
   >          odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net>, "sumandro" <
   >          sumandro@cis-india.org>, "" <ZeitzPS@state.gov>
   >
   >   Date:  Tue, Sep 8, 2015 6:08 PM
   >
   >   Subjec Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex
   on
   >   t:     Bundled Commitment on IODC & National Consultation/Roadmap on
   the
   >          Data Revolution for Sustainable Development
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >     This is a great point! At Open Knowledge we have thought about
   (but not
   >     yet found an answer) on how to add the user perspective to the
   Open Data
   >     Index, as we have found that some countries actually score
   relatively
   >     high in the OD index and OD barometer, but when you go and ask
   potential
   >     re-users in those countries they will tell you that the data
   published
   >     is actually useless for their work, as its lacks quality
   (including but
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<html><body><p>Excellent.  We now have pledges from Junar, NuCivic, and CKAN to support the Data Usage Vocabulary and integrate Open Data Utility Metadata into Open Data Portals.<br><br>We hope that Socrata will also join in supporting this step forward and that all of you will provide feedback on the emerging draft of the standard.  We (W3C Data on the Web Best Practices WG) will come back to you soon with a request for comment.<br><br>Thank You!!!<br><br>Best Regards,<br><br>Steve<br><br>Motto: &quot;Do First, Think, Do it Again&quot;<br><br><img width="16" height="16" src="cid:1__=0ABBF45DDFD43DC08f9e8a93df938690918c0AB@" border="0" alt="Inactive hide details for Adrià Mercader ---09/28/2015 07:41:50 AM---Hi all, My name is Adrià Mercader, I work for Open Knowled"><font color="#424282">Adrià Mercader ---09/28/2015 07:41:50 AM---Hi all, My name is Adrià Mercader, I work for Open Knowledge and I'm a member of</font><br><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">From:        </font><font size="2">Adrià Mercader &lt;adria.mercader@okfn.org&gt;</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">To:        </font><font size="2">Jo Barratt &lt;jo.barratt@okfn.org&gt;</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Cc:        </font><font size="2">Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, &quot;rufus.pollock@okfn.org&quot; &lt;rufus.pollock@okfn.org&gt;, Barbara Ubaldi &lt;Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org&gt;, Bernadette Farias Lóscio &lt;bfl@cin.ufpe.br&gt;, Carlos Iglesias &lt;carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org&gt;, Daniel Dietrich &lt;daniel.dietrich@okfn.org&gt;, &quot;diego.may@junar.com&quot; &lt;diego.may@junar.com&gt;, &quot;Jose M. Alonso&quot; &lt;josema@webfoundation.org&gt;, Kevin Merritt &lt;kevin.merritt@socrata.com&gt;, Marcio Vasconcelos &lt;Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net&gt;, &quot;ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net&quot; &lt;odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net&gt;, Phil Archer &lt;phila@w3.org&gt;, DWBP Public List &lt;public-dwbp-wg@w3.org&gt;, Rich Robbins &lt;rich@nucivic.com&gt;, Sid Burgess &lt;Sid.Burgess@govdelivery.com&gt;, sumandro &lt;sumandro@cis-india.org&gt;, Tim Davies &lt;tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk&gt;, &quot;Zeitz, Paul S&quot; &lt;ZeitzPS@state.gov&gt;, Andrew Hoppin &lt;andrew@nucivic.com&gt;, Timothy Grant Herzog &lt;therzog1@worldbank.org&gt;, Amparo Ballivian &lt;aballivian@worldbank.org&gt;, Katelyn Rogers &lt;katelyn.rogers@okfn.org&gt;</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Date:        </font><font size="2">09/28/2015 07:41 AM</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Subject:        </font><font size="2">Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on Bundled Commitment on IODC &amp; National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data Revolution for Sustainable Development</font><br><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left" noshade style="color:#8091A5; "><br><br><br><font size="4">Hi all,<br></font><br><font size="4">My name is Adrià Mercader, I work for Open Knowledge and I'm a member of the CKAN core tech team. I'll be happy to help coordinate in any way we can to make CKAN support whatever spec is agreed for Dataset Usage monitoring.<br></font><br><font size="4">Best,<br></font><br><font size="4">Adrià</font><br><br><font size="4">On 28 September 2015 at 10:04, Jo Barratt &lt;</font><a href="mailto:jo.barratt@okfn.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">jo.barratt@okfn.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt; wrote:</font><ul><font size="4">Hi Adria, <br></font><br><font size="4">Can you have a peruse of this when you have a moment and let me know what you think?</font><br><font size="4"><br></font><br><font size="4">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: </font><b><font size="4">Katelyn Rogers</font></b><font size="4"> &lt;</font><a href="mailto:katelyn.rogers@okfn.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">katelyn.rogers@okfn.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;<br>Date: 25 September 2015 at 14:10<br>Subject: Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on Bundled Commitment on IODC &amp; National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data Revolution for Sustainable Development<br>To: Amparo Ballivian &lt;</font><a href="mailto:aballivian@worldbank.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">aballivian@worldbank.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;<br>Cc: Steven Adler &lt;</font><a href="mailto:adler1@us.ibm.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">adler1@us.ibm.com</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, &quot;</font><a href="mailto:rufus.pollock@okfn.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">rufus.pollock@okfn.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:rufus.pollock@okfn.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">rufus.pollock@okfn.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Barbara Ubaldi &lt;</font><a href="mailto:Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Bernadette Farias Lóscio &lt;</font><a href="mailto:bfl@cin.ufpe.br" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">bfl@cin.ufpe.br</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Carlos Iglesias &lt;</font><a href="mailto:carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Daniel Dietrich &lt;</font><a href="mailto:daniel.dietrich@okfn.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">daniel.dietrich@okfn.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, &quot;</font><a href="mailto:diego.may@junar.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">diego.may@junar.com</font></u></a><font size="4">&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:diego.may@junar.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">diego.may@junar.com</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, &quot;Jose M. Alonso&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:josema@webfoundation.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">josema@webfoundation.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Kevin Merritt &lt;</font><a href="mailto:kevin.merritt@socrata.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">kevin.merritt@socrata.com</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Marcio Vasconcelos &lt;</font><a href="mailto:Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, &quot;</font><a href="mailto:ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font size="4">&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Phil Archer &lt;</font><a href="mailto:phila@w3.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">phila@w3.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, DWBP Public List &lt;</font><a href="mailto:public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">public-dwbp-wg@w3.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Rich Robbins &lt;</font><a href="mailto:rich@nucivic.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">rich@nucivic.com</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Sid Burgess &lt;</font><a href="mailto:Sid.Burgess@govdelivery.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">Sid.Burgess@govdelivery.com</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, sumandro &lt;</font><a href="mailto:sumandro@cis-india.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">sumandro@cis-india.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Tim Davies &lt;</font><a href="mailto:tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, &quot;Zeitz, Paul S&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:ZeitzPS@state.gov" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">ZeitzPS@state.gov</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Andrew Hoppin &lt;</font><a href="mailto:andrew@nucivic.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">andrew@nucivic.com</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Timothy Grant Herzog &lt;</font><a href="mailto:therzog1@worldbank.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">therzog1@worldbank.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;, Jo Barratt &lt;</font><a href="mailto:jo.barratt@okfn.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">jo.barratt@okfn.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt;<br><br></font><br><font size="4">Hi Amparo, Steven and others! </font><br><br><font size="4">Great to see this discussion happening! As Rufus is traveling at the moment and may be slow to respond, I have cc'ed my colleague Jo Barratt who coordinates a good deal of the work on CKAN and liaises with the CKAN Association. I will let him follow up! </font><br><br><font size="4">All the best,</font><br><font size="4">Katelyn </font><br><br><font size="4">On 23 September 2015 at 18:02, Amparo Ballivian &lt;</font><a href="mailto:aballivian@worldbank.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">aballivian@worldbank.org</font></u></a><font size="4">&gt; wrote:</font><br><br><font size="4" face="Calibri"><br>Steven,<br><br>As far as I know, Rufus Pollock is the President of Open Knowledge (formerly Open Knowledge Foundation). I copy him here. <br><br>BTW, I think having standard metadata for open data is an awesome idea. <br>FYI, the standard metadata for microdata (surveys and census) is DDI. We are financing a CKAN module to support DDI metadata of open microdata. My colleague Tim Herzog is in charge of that, so I copy him as well.<br><br>Best<br><br>Amparo</font><br><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left"><br><b><font face="Calibri">From:</font></b><font face="Calibri"> Steven Adler &lt;</font><a href="mailto:adler1@us.ibm.com" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">adler1@us.ibm.com</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;</font><b><font face="Calibri"><br>Sent:</font></b><font face="Calibri"> Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:32 AM</font><b><font face="Calibri"><br>To:</font></b><font face="Calibri"> Andrew Hoppin</font><b><font face="Calibri"><br>Cc:</font></b><font face="Calibri"> Barbara Ubaldi; Bernadette Farias Lóscio; Carlos Iglesias; Daniel Dietrich; </font><a href="mailto:diego.may@junar.com" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">diego.may@junar.com</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">; Jose M. Alonso; Kevin Merritt; Marcio Vasconcelos; </font><a href="mailto:ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">; Phil Archer; DWBP Public List; Rich Robbins; Sid Burgess; sumandro; Tim Davies; Zeitz, Paul S; Katelyn Rogers</font><b><font face="Calibri"><br>Subject:</font></b><font face="Calibri"> RE: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on Bundled Commitment on IODC &amp; National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data Revolution for Sustainable Development</font><font size="4" face="Calibri"> </font><br><font size="4" face="Calibri"> </font><p><font size="4" face="Calibri">Super! That's 2 out of 4. <br><br>Katelyn, could you put us in touch with whomever is &quot;running&quot; CKAN at Open Knowledge Foundation to see if they would be interested in joining Junar and NuCivic in their support of Open Data Standard Metadata to measure aggregate utilization?<br><br>Thanks Andrew!<br><br><br>Best Regards,<br><br>Steve<br><br>Motto: &quot;Do First, Think, Do it Again&quot;<br><br></font><font size="4" color="#424282" face="Calibri">Andrew Hoppin ---09/23/2015 11:26:17 AM---Steve, Phil, Diego, Count us in.  This seems to us extremely important work, and we'd like to roll</font><p><font size="4" face="Calibri"><br></font><font color="#5F5F5F" face="Calibri"><br>From: </font><font face="Calibri">Andrew Hoppin &lt;</font><a href="mailto:andrew@nucivic.com" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">andrew@nucivic.com</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;</font><font color="#5F5F5F" face="Calibri"><br>To: </font><font face="Calibri">Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, Diego May &lt;</font><a href="mailto:diego.may@junar.com" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">diego.may@junar.com</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;</font><font color="#5F5F5F" face="Calibri"><br>Cc: </font><font face="Calibri">Barbara Ubaldi &lt;</font><a href="mailto:Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, Bernadette Farias Lóscio &lt;</font><a href="mailto:bfl@cin.ufpe.br" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">bfl@cin.ufpe.br</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;Carlos Iglesias&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, Daniel Dietrich &lt;</font><a href="mailto:daniel.dietrich@okfn.org" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">daniel.dietrich@okfn.org</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;Jose M. Alonso&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:josema@webfoundation.org" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">josema@webfoundation.org</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, Kevin Merritt &lt;</font><a href="mailto:kevin.merritt@socrata.com" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">kevin.merritt@socrata.com</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, Marcio Vasconcelos &lt;</font><a href="mailto:Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;</font><a href="mailto:ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, Phil Archer &lt;</font><a href="mailto:phila@w3.org" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">phila@w3.org</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;DWBP Public List&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">public-dwbp-wg@w3.org</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, sumandro &lt;</font><a href="mailto:sumandro@cis-india.org" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">sumandro@cis-india.org</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;Tim Davies&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;Zeitz, Paul S&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:ZeitzPS@state.gov" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">ZeitzPS@state.gov</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, Rich Robbins &lt;</font><a href="mailto:rich@nucivic.com" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">rich@nucivic.com</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;, Sid Burgess &lt;</font><a href="mailto:Sid.Burgess@govdelivery.com" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Sid.Burgess@govdelivery.com</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">&gt;</font><font color="#5F5F5F" face="Calibri"><br>Date: </font><font face="Calibri">09/23/2015 11:26 AM</font><font color="#5F5F5F" face="Calibri"><br>Subject: </font><font face="Calibri">RE: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on Bundled Commitment on IODC &amp; National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data Revolution for Sustainable Development</font><p><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left" noshade><font size="4" face="Calibri"><br><br><br>Steve, Phil, Diego, <br><br>Count us in.  This seems to us extremely important work, and we'd like to roll up our sleeves and help, and to support natively in DKAN any new Dataset Usage Vocabulary that may be established.  <br><br>Best,<br>Andrew  <br><br><br>From: Steven Adler &lt;</font><a href="mailto:adler1@us.ibm.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">adler1@us.ibm.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;<br>Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:35 AM<br>To: Diego May<br>Cc: Andrew Hoppin; Barbara Ubaldi; Bernadette Farias Lóscio; Carlos Iglesias; Daniel Dietrich; Jose M. Alonso; Kevin Merritt; Marcio Vasconcelos; </font><a href="mailto:ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">; Phil Archer; DWBP Public List; sumandro; Tim Davies; Zeitz, Paul S<br>Subject: Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on Bundled Commitment on IODC &amp; National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data Revolution for Sustainable Development<br>  <br>Great.  We are happy to share our Vocabulary draft with Junar and hope that NuCivic, Socrata, and CKAN will also participate.  Furthermore, we hope that members of the Open Data Charter Stewardship Group will also provide input.<br><br>Thanks Diego!<br><br><br>Best Regards,<br><br>Steve<br><br>Motto: &quot;Do First, Think, Do it Again&quot;<br><br>Diego  May ---09/15/2015 11:29:53 AM---Hi all, I do agree in the importance of talking about OD utilization, statistics,<br><br>  <br>From:  <br>Diego May &lt;</font><a href="mailto:diego.may@junar.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">diego.may@junar.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;   <br>To:  <br>Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, Bernadette Farias Lóscio &lt;</font><a href="mailto:bfl@cin.ufpe.br" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">bfl@cin.ufpe.br</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;   <br>Cc:  <br>Phil Archer &lt;</font><a href="mailto:phila@w3.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">phila@w3.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Andrew Hoppin &lt;</font><a href="mailto:andrew@nucivic.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">andrew@nucivic.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Barbara Ubaldi &lt;</font><a href="mailto:Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Carlos Iglesias &lt;</font><a href="mailto:carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Daniel Dietrich &lt;</font><a href="mailto:daniel.dietrich@okfn.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">daniel.dietrich@okfn.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;Jose M. Alonso&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:josema@webfoundation.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">josema@webfoundation.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;,  Kevin Merritt &lt;</font><a href="mailto:kevin.merritt@socrata.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">kevin.merritt@socrata.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Marcio Vasconcelos &lt;</font><a href="mailto:Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;</font><a href="mailto:ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, DWBP Public List &lt;</font><a href="mailto:public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">public-dwbp-wg@w3.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, sumandro &lt;</font><a href="mailto:sumandro@cis-india.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">sumandro@cis-india.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Tim Davies  &lt;</font><a href="mailto:tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;Zeitz, Paul S&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:ZeitzPS@state.gov" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">ZeitzPS@state.gov</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;   <br>Date:  <br>09/15/2015 11:29 AM   <br>Subject:  <br>Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on Bundled Commitment on IODC &amp; National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data Revolution for Sustainable Development    <br><br><br><br>Hi all,<br><br>I do agree in the importance of talking about OD utilization, statistics, metadata and more. Just let me know if there is any call or any specific question we can work on to help. <br><br>Have a great day,<br><br>Diego<br><br>Diego May<br>Co-founder &amp; CEO<br>  Junar, Open Data Made Simple<br>  Twitter @Junar @diegomay :: Blog </font><a href="http://blog.junar.com/" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Blog.junar.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri"> :: Linkedin Diegohmay<br>   Post acerca de Datos Abiertos :: ¿Cambiará  la democracia en próximos años?<br><br>On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio &lt;</font><a href="mailto:bfl@cin.ufpe.br" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">bfl@cin.ufpe.br</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt; wrote:  Hi Steve,<br><br>Thanks a lot for helping us to share and promote our activities on the Dataset Usage Vocab. We are working on a new version of the vocab and as soon as a more stable version is available, we're  gonna share this with the group.<br><br>We aim to produce a vocab that's gonna be really  helpful and for this It is important to gather feedback from the community!<br><br>cheers,<br>Bernadette<br><br><br><br><br>2015-09-14 12:06 GMT-03:00 Steven Adler &lt;</font><a href="mailto:adler1@us.ibm.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">adler1@us.ibm.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;:  Phil,<br><br>Great points.  I hope those on copy will work with us (W3C) to make sure our Vocabulary standards have immediate real world impact.<br><br><br>Best Regards,<br><br>Steve<br><br>Motto: &quot;Do First, Think, Do it Again&quot;<br><br>Phil Archer ---09/12/2015 02:40:29  AM---The motivation behind developing the Dataset Usage Vocab is to avoid  publishers putting their data<br>      From:  <br>Phil Archer &lt;</font><a href="mailto:phila@w3.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">phila@w3.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;     To:  <br>Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, &quot;Jose M. Alonso&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:josema@webfoundation.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">josema@webfoundation.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, DWBP Public List  &lt;</font><a href="mailto:public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">public-dwbp-wg@w3.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;     Cc:  <br>Barbara Ubaldi &lt;</font><a href="mailto:Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Carlos Iglesias &lt;</font><a href="mailto:carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;,  Daniel Dietrich &lt;</font><a href="mailto:daniel.dietrich@okfn.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">daniel.dietrich@okfn.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Marcio Vasconcelos &lt;</font><a href="mailto:Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;,  &quot;</font><a href="mailto:ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;,  sumandro &lt;</font><a href="mailto:sumandro@cis-india.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">sumandro@cis-india.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Tim Davies &lt;</font><a href="mailto:tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;,  &quot;Zeitz, Paul S&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:ZeitzPS@state.gov" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">ZeitzPS@state.gov</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Andrew Hoppin &lt;</font><a href="mailto:andrew@nucivic.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">andrew@nucivic.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;,  Kevin Merritt &lt;</font><a href="mailto:kevin.merritt@socrata.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">kevin.merritt@socrata.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Diego May Junar &lt;</font><a href="mailto:diego.may@junar.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">diego.may@junar.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;     Date:  <br>09/12/2015 02:40 AM     Subject:  <br>Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on  Bundled Commitment on IODC &amp; National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data  Revolution for Sustainable Development     <br><br><br><br>The motivation behind developing the Dataset Usage Vocab is to avoid <br>publishers putting their data behind a registration step. I was talking <br>to someone this week about the EU's Copernicus data - a huge trove of <br>satellite imagery that the EC trumpets as a great example of open data. <br>She was a little non-plussed when I said that, since you have to login <br>and fill in a form that tells them what you plan to do with the data, it <br>can't be called open.<br><br>So the idea is to create not only a vocab but an incentive for data <br>re-users to publish info about what they've used and what they've sued <br>it for. I see two incentives:<br><br>- discovery (think </font><a href="http://schema.org/" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">schema.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">);<br>- encouraging the publisher to keep on publishing.<br><br>Being able to 'ask the Web' who's using my data and what is it being <br>used for would be good.<br><br>This has some resonance with the research world's activities like <br>DataCite, CrossRef etc.<br><br>Phil.<br><br><br>On 09/09/2015 12:58, Steven Adler wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Jose,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I don't think we need to organize more sessions at conferences to figure<br>&gt; out how to measure OD utilization.  Might be easier to just talk to<br>&gt; Socrata, Junar, NuCivic, and CKAN folks to organize common utilization<br>&gt; metrics.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I am adding my W3C Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group colleagues<br>&gt; to this discussion since standardizing that metadata is within our mandate<br>&gt; and we are working on Data Quality and Usability Vocabularies.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Also adding Kevin Merrit (Socrata), Diego May (Junar), and Andrew Hoppin<br>&gt; (NuCivic).  I guess there are people already on copy who can represent<br>&gt; CKAN.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Kevin, Diego, Andrew - We are having a conversation about how to measure<br>&gt; aggregate Open Data utilization and we wonder if it would be possible to<br>&gt; agree on common metadata standards that would allow API calls to your OD<br>&gt; catalogs.  We would like to be able to add OD utilization and quality<br>&gt; statistics to common OD Supply Indexes.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Sorry to dump you all into this long thread.  But it seems to me that right<br>&gt; now, while our industry is relatively small, we have the opportunity to<br>&gt; agree on common standards that could really benefit many interests.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Could we ask you for your views on this topic?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Best Regards,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Steve<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Motto: &quot;Do First, Think, Do it Again&quot;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; |------------&gt;<br>&gt; | From:      |<br>&gt; |------------&gt;<br>&gt;    &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|<br>&gt;    |&quot;Jose M. Alonso&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:josema@webfoundation.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">josema@webfoundation.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;                                                                                                        |<br>&gt;    &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|<br>&gt; |------------&gt;<br>&gt; | To:        |<br>&gt; |------------&gt;<br>&gt;    &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|<br>&gt;    |Tim Davies &lt;</font><a href="mailto:tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;                                                                                                      |<br>&gt;    &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|<br>&gt; |------------&gt;<br>&gt; | Cc:        |<br>&gt; |------------&gt;<br>&gt;    &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|<br>&gt;    |Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, Daniel Dietrich &lt;</font><a href="mailto:daniel.dietrich@okfn.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">daniel.dietrich@okfn.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Barbara Ubaldi &lt;</font><a href="mailto:Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;,  Marcio Vasconcelos           |<br>&gt;    |&lt;</font><a href="mailto:Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;</font><a href="mailto:ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&quot;  &lt;</font><a href="mailto:odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, sumandro &lt;</font><a href="mailto:sumandro@cis-india.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">sumandro@cis-india.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;,    |<br>&gt;    |&quot;Zeitz, Paul S&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:ZeitzPS@state.gov" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">ZeitzPS@state.gov</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, Carlos Iglesias &lt;</font><a href="mailto:carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">carlos.iglesias@webfoundation.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;                                                           |<br>&gt;    &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|<br>&gt; |------------&gt;<br>&gt; | Date:      |<br>&gt; |------------&gt;<br>&gt;    &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|<br>&gt;    |09/09/2015 06:41 AM                                                                                                                               |<br>&gt;    &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|<br>&gt; |------------&gt;<br>&gt; | Subject:   |<br>&gt; |------------&gt;<br>&gt;    &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|<br>&gt;    |Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on Bundled Commitment on IODC &amp; National Consultation/Roadmap on the Data Revolution |<br>&gt;    |for Sustainable Development                                                                                                                       |<br>&gt;    &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hi all,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I fully agree this is a very important debate and, as Tim mentioned and (as<br>&gt; most of you know) he's been deeply involved with both the CAF and the ODB,<br>&gt; we keep on exploring at WF. The paper he referred to was commissioned to<br>&gt; keeping on exploring the &quot;Use&quot; element.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I was also intrigued about the use of household surveys and met with the<br>&gt; World Justice Project team earlier this year to learn more about their<br>&gt; method. They work with local/regional companies and survey thousands of<br>&gt; people. Besides what Tim mentioned above, two more issues come to mind:<br>&gt; time requirements and cost. Pew's and WPJ's product are not cheap and WPJ's<br>&gt; needs 2 years per round. Complexity of the ODB itself has increased<br>&gt; already. For example, we have introduced this year government<br>&gt; self-assessments as a new data collection component.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I believe we all certainly need to improve how we measure &quot;Use&quot; but also<br>&gt; keeping in mind the perfect might be the enemy of the good.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I'm copying my colleague Carlos as he's currently managing the ODB and our<br>&gt; work on the CAF and may have something else to add.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; IIRC, we have organized sessions at the last several conferences on this<br>&gt; topic and we might want to do so again soon, maybe in the context of the<br>&gt; OGP ODWG meeting at the OGP Summit or on the sides of it as I believe most<br>&gt; of us will be there.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Best,<br>&gt; Josema.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 2015-09-09 10:12 GMT+02:00 Tim Davies &lt;</font><a href="mailto:tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;:<br>&gt;    This is a really important debate: and if finding good methods for<br>&gt;    assessing levels of open data use would be very valuable.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    Across the components of the Common Assessment Method for Open Data usage<br>&gt;    is the least surveyed - in part due to the complexity of finding good<br>&gt;    robust sampling strategies.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    Surveys: Reflecting on Steve's suggestions around surveys:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    The best examples we probably have of large scale survey work in this<br>&gt;    area is either from the Pew Internet Project, which has a single-country<br>&gt;    US survey capturing American's awareness of Open Government Initiatives (<br>&gt;    </font><a href="http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/21/open-government-data/" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/21/open-government-data/</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">), and then<br>&gt;    the World Justice Project's multi-country survey of major cities, which<br>&gt;    included a number of questions for their Open Government Index (<br>&gt;    </font><a href="http://data.worldjusticeproject.org/opengov/" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">http://data.worldjusticeproject.org/opengov/</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">) relating to citizen<br>&gt;    perceptions around their use of Right to Information mechanisms.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    However, particularly when it comes to getting cross-country comparison<br>&gt;    data that is sensitive specifically to open data, as opposed to the<br>&gt;    presence of an app economy or civic technology in general, it can be very<br>&gt;    difficult to frame definitions in surveys in ways that produce reliable<br>&gt;    and comparable data.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    One of the issues faced in the Open Data Barometer's 'Impact' method,<br>&gt;    which broadly combines a measure of use and impact (asking about the<br>&gt;    presence of stories of open data having an impact in particular<br>&gt;    settings), is that countries that spend more resource capturing case<br>&gt;    studies of use may score higher than countries who have more cases of<br>&gt;    use, but where those cases are less well documented or promoted. Re-use<br>&gt;    that doesn't result in high-profile apps and websites is particularly<br>&gt;    likely to be missed by both expert and public-perception surveys.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    From a robust evidence point of view, it's would also be important I<br>&gt;    think to have independent sampling and data collection: making it tricky<br>&gt;    to put govts in the middle of asking citizens to fill out surveys.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    Other approaches: Two other approaches which might be useful here:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    (1) Refining 'data availability' metrics. As Daniel notes, most of our<br>&gt;    measures of data openness right now are not sensitive enough to data<br>&gt;    quality.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    There is some interesting work on domain-specific measures of quality<br>&gt;    (e.g. Open Data Watch Inventory - capturing levels of disaggregation in<br>&gt;    nationals stats:<br>&gt;    </font><a href="http://www.opendatawatch.com/Pages/Open-Data-Inventory.aspx" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">http://www.opendatawatch.com/Pages/Open-Data-Inventory.aspx</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">), and finding<br>&gt;    metrics that indicate how re-usable a dataset is likely to be (<br>&gt;    </font><a href="http://www.opendataresearch.org/dl/symposium2015/odrs2015-paper60.pdf" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">http://www.opendataresearch.org/dl/symposium2015/odrs2015-paper60.pdf</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">).<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    I've been interested in exploring whether we can find efficient methods<br>&gt;    for use-case driven testing of the practical openness of datasets to<br>&gt;    replace/complement the current check-list approaches used in the Open<br>&gt;    Data Barometer and Index.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    (2) Finding and evidencing good proxy variables.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    The Open Data Barometer includes variables on civil society capacity, and<br>&gt;    private sector ICT capacity, in part because it hypothesises that these<br>&gt;    are important ingredients of enabling re-use.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    It would be worth testing this in a number of contexts, and exploring<br>&gt;    whether there are other better proxy variables to capture factors aside<br>&gt;    from data quality which are strongly associated with the presence of open<br>&gt;    data re-use in a country.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    ---<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    All the best<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    Tim<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Steven Adler &lt;</font><a href="mailto:adler1@us.ibm.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">adler1@us.ibm.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;     Great.  The normal way to measure utilization is through consumer<br>&gt;     preference, but that requires a menu of different consumer choices with<br>&gt;     price discovery.  We have a free commodity with few market alternatives,<br>&gt;     therefore our only option is to survey consumer opinions of open data<br>&gt;     quality, relevance, and value.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;     Not very sophisticated but it works if we can develop a short survey and<br>&gt;     get governments to ask users to fill it out anonymously to generate<br>&gt;     reasonable sample sizes.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;     What do people think about this?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;     Best Regards,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;     Steve Adler<br>&gt;     IBM<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;     Daniel Dietrich --- Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS:<br>&gt;     Gov of Mex on Bundled Commitment on IODC &amp; National Consultation/Roadmap<br>&gt;     on the Data Revolution for Sustainable Development ---<br>&gt;<br>&gt;   From:  &quot;Daniel Dietrich&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:daniel.dietrich@okfn.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">daniel.dietrich@okfn.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;   To:    &quot;Steven Adler&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:adler1@us.ibm.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">adler1@us.ibm.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;   Cc:    &quot;Barbara Ubaldi&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:Barbara.UBALDI@oecd.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Barb
ara.UBALDI@oecd.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;Jose Manuel Alonso&quot; &lt;<br>&gt;          </font><a href="mailto:josema@webfoundation.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">josema@webfoundation.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;Marcio Vasconcelos&quot; &lt;<br>&gt;          </font><a href="mailto:Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Marcio.Vasconcelos@avina.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;<br>&gt;          </font><a href="mailto:ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">ODCstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&quot; &lt;<br>&gt;          </font><a href="mailto:odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">odcstewardslist@opendatacharter.net</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;sumandro&quot; &lt;<br>&gt;          </font><a href="mailto:sumandro@cis-india.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">sumandro@cis-india.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;, &quot;&quot; &lt;</font><a href="mailto:ZeitzPS@state.gov" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">ZeitzPS@state.gov</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Calibri">&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;   Date:  Tue, Sep 8, 2015 6:08 PM<br>&gt;<br>&gt;   Subjec Re: [odcgeneralstewardslist] IODC+ DATA ROADMAPS: Gov of Mex on<br>&gt;   t:     Bundled Commitment on IODC &amp; National Consultation/Roadmap on the<br>&gt;          Data Revolution for Sustainable Development<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;     This is a great point! At Open Knowledge we have thought about (but not<br>&gt;     yet found an answer) on how to add the user perspective to the Open Data<br>&gt;     Index, as we have found that some countries actually score relatively<br>&gt;     high in the OD index and OD barometer, but when you go and ask potential<br>&gt;     re-users in those countries they will tell you that the data published<br>&gt;     is actually useless for their work, as its lacks quality (including but<br>&gt;     not limited to: high level of aggregation, missing details<br>&gt;     (itemisation), low granularity, not timely, not updated, no historic<br>&gt;     data for comparison, etc). However it is very hard to capture this kind<br>&gt;     of feedback into an index, as these are individual statements for<br>&gt;     individual use-cases. However not having this perspective the actual<br>&gt;     indexes sometimes draw a misleading picture for some countries.<br>&gt;     Interested to hear other people thoughts. 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