Re: Remove the Data Vocabularies section from the DWBP document

I agree with Bernadette. This is something that has bothered me for a long time. I don’t think it’s in our scope to tell people how to go about making a new vocabulary. I think the one thing that is in our scope is mentioning that existing vocabularies should be used in metadata wherever possible, and that is in the metadata BP.
-Annette
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Annette Greiner
NERSC Data and Analytics Services
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
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On May 13, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br> wrote:

> Hi João Paulo,
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> I agree with you! However, I don't think that it is in the scope of the DWBP document to provide BP for creating vocabularies.  
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> Cheers,
> Bernadette
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> 2015-05-13 14:27 GMT-03:00 João Paulo Almeida <jpalmeida@ieee.org>:
> Dear Bernadette and All,
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> What if there is no established data format or vocabulary for some domain which can be used to represent data in that domain? … so I don’t think we should restrict ourselves to talking about reusing an existing vocabulary, as is may be necessary to create a vocabulary in order to publish data.
> 
> Regards,
> João Paulo
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> From: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 1:40 PM
> To: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
> Cc: "public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: Remove the Data Vocabularies section from the DWBP document
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> Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 16:41:06 +0000
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> Hello Antoine,
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> Please, find below the list of BP for Data Vocabularies and a brief explanation why IMO they are out of the scope of the DWBP document. 
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> Best Practice 14: Document vocabularies: this BP discusses how to document vocabularies instead of how to reuse vocabularies (There is also a redundancy between this BP and  Best Practice 1: Provide metadata). 
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> Best Practice 15: Share vocabularies in an open way: this best practice concerns how to share vocabularies instead of how to reuse them.
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> Best Practice 16: Vocabulary versioning: this BP concerns how to identify changes to a vocabulary over time instead of how to reuse vocabularies (There is a BP that deals with dataset versioning - Best Practice 8: Provide versioning information).
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> Best Practice 17: Re-use vocabularies: IMO this is the only BP that concerns the reuse of vocabularies. However, there is a redundancy between this and Best Practice 2: Use standard terms to define metadata
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> Best Practice 18: Choose the right formalization level: again this BP concerns vocabularies creation instead of reuse of vocabularies.
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> kind regards,
> Bernadette
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> 2015-05-13 11:31 GMT-03:00 Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>:
> -1.
> 
> If there are redundancies between the MD BD and the Voc BP, then maybe it's not a good sign for the MD BP themselves. They've probably be scoped too widely... But what are precisely the redundancies you've spotted? We probably need to know more.
> 
> Second, I don't have a strong objection refering to the W3C Best Practices for Publishing Linked Data.
> But we already reached the conclusion that there was value reprising those BPs because (1) that LD BPS were not an official W3C rec and (2) this was an opportunity to write BP that would be less technically biased. I don't see why we'd revisit this position, while it already had costed us enough discussion time last year. Especially I wouldn't be ready to revisit this position based on the fact that some other part of the document would be redundant. That's not the right reason.
> 
> Antoine
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> On 5/13/15 2:58 PM, Phil Archer wrote:
> +1
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> On 13/05/2015 14:25, yaso@nic.br wrote:
> Agreed, Berna
> 
> +1
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> On 05/13/2015 10:06 AM, Eric Stephan wrote:
> +1
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> Eric S
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> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:01 AM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'd like to propose to remove the Data Vocabularies section from the DWBP
> document. After reviewing the document, I believe that there is a lot of
> redundancy between the BP for data vocabularies and BP for metadata.
> Besides, IMO the creation of vocabularies is not in the scope of the
> document.
> 
> Instead of having a section for data vocabularies, we may refer to The
> Standard Vocabularies section of the W3C Best Practices for Publishing
> Linked Data.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Cheers,
> Bernadette
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> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
> Centro de Informática
> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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> Centro de Informática
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