- From: Laufer <laufer@globo.com>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:11:08 -0300
- To: Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>
- Cc: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CA+pXJijwGbk-tpnDr4i=32kN4J5rh3co_zeh15Pmr5UBf+y5Fg@mail.gmail.com>
Thank you Makx for this text about some relations between datasets. >Do others agree with limiting versioning to the ‘Superseding’ category? I agree. And I think we should have a text in our document telling readers that this is our understanding about versioning. But I have a question: what about the other "meanings"? There will be any type of BPs for them? Best Regards, Laufer Em segunda-feira, 27 de julho de 2015, Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com> escreveu: > Thanks Bernadette, > > > > Good to know that your perspective is that versioning only refers to the > ‘Superseding’ case. I fully agree with your perspective. > > > > However, you make some statements about the other types of changes that I > don’t agree with. > > > > I do not agree that ‘Following’ creates different ‘states’ of the same > dataset. To me, this year’s budget is only related to last year’s budget > because they are both budgets, but they are not versions of the same thing. > They may have the same granularity (e.g. expressed in thousands of dollars) > but the structure could be different (e.g. because of organisational or > regional changes). For me, time series (and spatial series) have nothing to > do with versioning. > > > > I do also not agree that ‘Adapting’ creates a new state (as in data at a > particular moment). All adaptations are equally valid and exist in > parallel. To me, adaptations are almost in the same category as the > different formats that DCAT groups as Distributions of a Dataset. > > > > Finally, I do I agree that ‘Modifying’ creates a different state and not a > new version. In many cases, a publisher might not even bother to keep the > old file but would just change the dct:modified date in the metadata. > > > > Do others agree with limiting versioning to the ‘Superseding’ category? > > > > Makx. > > > > > > > > *From:* Bernadette Farias Lóscio [mailto:bfl@cin.ufpe.br > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bfl@cin.ufpe.br');>] > *Sent:* 27 July 2015 13:51 > *To:* Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mail@makxdekkers.com');>> > *Cc:* Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','public-dwbp-wg@w3.org');>> > *Subject:* Re: Versioning > > > > Hi Makx, > > > > Thanks for bringing this discussion and clarifying those differences. IMO > this kind of distinction is important. However, I am not sure if we should > call "versioning" all types of "updates" that you presented. I created the > following table to help me to visualize these updates in terms of data (or > content) changes and structure changes. > > > > > > content change > > structure change > > > > Superseding > > yes > > yes > > new version > > Following > > yes > > no > > different spatial/temporal granularity > > Modifying > > yes > > no > > the data may have been updated or data may have been added > > Adapting > > yes > > no > > content is the same, but in different contexts > > > > I think that just in the first case (superseding) there will be a new > version of the dataset. In the other cases, there will be different states > of the same dataset, where a dataset state means the data in the dataset at > a particular moment. > > > > Please, let me know if I understood correct and if these ideas make sense > to you. > > > > Cheers, > > Bernadette > > > > > > > > > > > > *Superseding:* > > > > Content and structure might be very different but the publisher wants you > to use the current resource rather than a resource that preceded it. The > URL stays the same while the content changes although the broad intention > of the content stays the same. > > > > Examples: > > • Today’s website (or, more general, web resource) > versus last week’s (Memento); > > • Latest version link, e.g. latest published draft of > BP http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp/. > > > > *Following:* > > > > The type of content is the same but it covers a different time period. > Both the new and the old data remain valid. (NB: spatial series, e.g. the > same kind of data for different regions, are similar to temporal series in > many respects.) > > > > Examples: > > • Sequences of annual budgets; > > • Daily meteorological observations; > > • Periodical census data. > > > > *Modifying:* > > > > Content, structure and data points are the same to some extent but the > data may have been updated or data may have been added. > > > > Examples: > > • Correcting errors in values of data points, e.g. resulting > from quality control or user feedback; > > • Adding data points, e.g. if measurements from different > measuring devices come in at different times but belong together; > > • Updating values, e.g. in a Year-to-date file. > > > > *Adapting:* > > > > Content and structure are essentially the same but in different contexts. > > > > Examples: > > • Translations of text fields or labels; > > • Conversion of co-ordinate system; > > • Conversions of measures, e.g. ºC to ºF, imperial units to SI; > > • Changes in granularity. > > > > Should we somehow take such distinctions into account or should we lump > them all together? > > > > > > -- > > Bernadette Farias Lóscio > Centro de Informática > Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- . . . .. . . . . . .. . .. .
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