- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:42:34 +0000
- To: Michel Dumontier <michel.dumontier@stanford.edu>
- CC: Public DWBP WG <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
Hi again Michel,
I was looking at the dataset description work. That's obviously
interesting in this WG. I was looking in particular in some of the
semantics which bring me to a few questions.
1. What is the reason for choosing
:chembl a dctypes:Dataset .
rather than
:chembl a dcat:Dataset .
or
:chembl a dctypes:Dataset, dcat:Dataset . ??
2. This:
:chembl17
dct:creator <https://www.ebi.ac.uk/chembl/> .
Really?
Not
:chembl17
dct:creator [foaf:page <https://www.ebi.ac.uk/chembl/>] .
or some such??
3. This one is very interesting and timely:
:chembl_target_targetcmpt_linkset
pav:authoredBy <http://orcid.org/0000-0002-8011-0300> .
So you see an ORCID as a person, not a page about a person? High on my
to do list for the coming week or so is to make good on a promise to
ORCID to offer some advice on improving the semantics of the data they
offer. One of the things I am *very* keen to avoid of course is the
HttpRange-14 rat hole and my hope is that we can say that an ORCID URI
identifies a landing page about a person. The person themselves would
http://orcid.org/0000-0002-8011-0300#person (or similar). i.e. a frag ID
to distinguish between the different things that currently the same
identifier is used for (person, profile page, account etc.)
So I'm keen to know how you see this.
4. Similar to 2
:chembl
dct:publisher <http://www.ebi.ac.uk> .
Hmm...
:chembl
dct:publisher [foaf:homepage <http://www.ebi.ac.uk> ].
no ??
5. cf. question 2
:chembl
foaf:page <http://www.ebi.ac.uk/chembl/> ;
schemaorg:logo
<http://www.ebi.ac.uk/rdf/sites/ebi.ac.uk.rdf/files/resize/images/rdf/chembl_service_logo-146x48.gif>
.
So you currently have <http://www.ebi.ac.uk/chembl/> as the creator of
the dataset and a page about it.
6. I note with interest the inclusion of citation guidance in the rights
statement. Have you looked at the Force11 Data Citation principles? Do
you think we should have a specific term(s) in DCAT for citation text?
This is going to be very relevant in DWBP as we work on the data usage
vocabulary (which is v likely to be a DCAT extension).
I know I'm being a pedant - call it a professional hazard - but I'm
interested to see how semantic pedantry plays out in the real world. If
the community at large is happy that the same URI identifies a creator
and a page about something, or that every person with an ORCID has a
MIME type then, that's the way the world is and I'll be quiet, but if
not, let's see what we can do to help!
Cheers
Phil.
On 22/02/2015 19:31, Michel Dumontier wrote:
> Thanks Phil!
> I wish I could attend the call, but 6am PST is too early for me :)
> Looks like you've all been making steady progress, but I must say that I
> haven't been able to keep up due to other commitments. If you can point me
> to specific documents i can have a read through and provide some feedback.
> otherwise, if there are specific things you want me to contribute to, let
> me know
> Thanks!
>
> m.
>
>
> Michel Dumontier, PhD
> Associate Professor of Medicine (Biomedical Informatics)
> Stanford University
> http://dumontierlab.com
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> This is likely to be of interest to this group.
>>
>> http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/joejimbo/
>> HCLSDatasetDescriptions/blob/master/Overview.html
>>
>> I admit it's news to me - but nonetheless welcome for that.
>>
>> One of the editors, Michel Dumontier, is a (so far) silent member of this
>> WG.
>>
>> Something for us to take into account!
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Phil Archer
>> W3C Data Activity Lead
>> http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
>>
>> http://philarcher.org
>> +44 (0)7887 767755
>> @philarcher1
>>
>>
>
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http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
http://philarcher.org
+44 (0)7887 767755
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