- From: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
- Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 09:17:06 -0300
- To: Yasodara <yaso@nic.br>
- Cc: Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>, "public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>, Erik Wilde <erik.wilde@dret.net>
- Message-ID: <CANx1Pzz0b4_E2om0DF6P3a-HiJBH4yGcwT=cagnDyc3Usf4DKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Yaso, Thanks for the updates! Could you please also include some examples on the BP according to the example that is being used in the DWBP doc [1]? Thanks! Berna [1] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#basicExample 2015-12-04 9:09 GMT-03:00 Yasodara <yaso@nic.br>: > Hi Annete, Erik and everyone, > > I made a lot of changes in the draft proposed by Annete, hope to make a > pull request at github for the editors, but it would be nice if you could > take a look. > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/13q2CvZjMkjXrg7Pv7aTRuU5UL2J_-py09Vs_zJoaLso/edit# > > > yaso > > > > > On 11/23/2015 08:24 PM, Annette Greiner wrote: > > Hi Erik, > > I can live with avoiding using the word REST when it isn't used to > > describe an API that follows all the REST constraints, but there is a > > webby coding style that most web API developers follow that often makes > > use of hypermedia but doesn't rely on it for holding state. Developers > > using this style do expose resources with consistent IDs identified by > > URIs and manipulated via representations. What do you suggest we call > > that approach? > > -Annette > > > > On 11/23/15 12:26 AM, Erik Wilde wrote: > > > On 2015-11-20 20:51, Annette Greiner wrote: > > >> As a group, we have, I think wisely, avoided centering any of the best > > >> practices on any single technology, because we want the practices to > be > > >> able to survive the forward progress of technology and popularity. We > > >> can mention specific technologies in the implementation sections, > > >> though. > > > > > > +1 for not recommending specific technologies, and +1 for maybe > > > listing some as examples if that's a pattern throughout the spec. > > > > > >> I also believe we need to consider pragmatic REST as well as HATEOAS. > > > > > > REST has a proper definition. "pragmatic REST" doesn't (or it's > > > something along the lines of "do whatever you like via HTTP, mostly > > > use it like FTP with a different name"). > > > > > > HATEOAS *as a name* should be avoided, people actively try to avoid it > > > these days. call it hypermedia instead, and say that it's the essence > > > of webbyness. > > > > > >>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Pieter Colpaert > > >>> Instead I would suggest taking it a step further. When we combine > > >>> REST, HATEOAS, Linked Data and HTTP for an Open Data API thoroughly, > > >>> you'd come up with Hydra [1] (a community group [2] at W3C). Wouldn't > > >>> it be better to create a best practise that says you need to weave > > >>> your data documents together with Hydra? > > > > > > i concur with annette when it comes to not recommending specific > > > technologies. also, you can make much more lightweight recommendations > > > than this one, which means that people have to use the RDF metamodel. > > > > > > what might be a very lightweight and pragmatic best practice about > > > hypermedia would by to say that one of the essential aspects of > > > hypermedia are typed links: > > > > > > > https://github.com/dret/hyperpedia/blob/master/concepts.md#link-relation-type > > > > > > > > > and that when it comes to typed links, RFC 5988 and the resulting link > > > type registry at > > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml > > > provide a simple foundation for anybody to build their vocabulary on. > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > dret. > > > > > > > -- > -yaso > > CeWeb - Centro de estudos sobre tecnologias Web > W3C Escritório Brasil > NIC.br - CGI.br > Phone: 55 11 5509-3537 (4025) > > > -- Bernadette Farias Lóscio Centro de Informática Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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