- From: Yasodara <yaso@nic.br>
- Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 10:09:32 -0200
- To: Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>
- CC: public-dwbp-wg@w3.org, Erik Wilde <erik.wilde@dret.net>
Hi Annete, Erik and everyone, I made a lot of changes in the draft proposed by Annete, hope to make a pull request at github for the editors, but it would be nice if you could take a look. https://docs.google.com/document/d/13q2CvZjMkjXrg7Pv7aTRuU5UL2J_-py09Vs_zJoaLso/edit# yaso On 11/23/2015 08:24 PM, Annette Greiner wrote: > Hi Erik, > I can live with avoiding using the word REST when it isn't used to > describe an API that follows all the REST constraints, but there is a > webby coding style that most web API developers follow that often makes > use of hypermedia but doesn't rely on it for holding state. Developers > using this style do expose resources with consistent IDs identified by > URIs and manipulated via representations. What do you suggest we call > that approach? > -Annette > > On 11/23/15 12:26 AM, Erik Wilde wrote: > > On 2015-11-20 20:51, Annette Greiner wrote: > >> As a group, we have, I think wisely, avoided centering any of the best > >> practices on any single technology, because we want the practices to be > >> able to survive the forward progress of technology and popularity. We > >> can mention specific technologies in the implementation sections, > >> though. > > > > +1 for not recommending specific technologies, and +1 for maybe > > listing some as examples if that's a pattern throughout the spec. > > > >> I also believe we need to consider pragmatic REST as well as HATEOAS. > > > > REST has a proper definition. "pragmatic REST" doesn't (or it's > > something along the lines of "do whatever you like via HTTP, mostly > > use it like FTP with a different name"). > > > > HATEOAS *as a name* should be avoided, people actively try to avoid it > > these days. call it hypermedia instead, and say that it's the essence > > of webbyness. > > > >>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Pieter Colpaert > >>> Instead I would suggest taking it a step further. When we combine > >>> REST, HATEOAS, Linked Data and HTTP for an Open Data API thoroughly, > >>> you'd come up with Hydra [1] (a community group [2] at W3C). Wouldn't > >>> it be better to create a best practise that says you need to weave > >>> your data documents together with Hydra? > > > > i concur with annette when it comes to not recommending specific > > technologies. also, you can make much more lightweight recommendations > > than this one, which means that people have to use the RDF metamodel. > > > > what might be a very lightweight and pragmatic best practice about > > hypermedia would by to say that one of the essential aspects of > > hypermedia are typed links: > > > > https://github.com/dret/hyperpedia/blob/master/concepts.md#link-relation-type > > > > > > and that when it comes to typed links, RFC 5988 and the resulting link > > type registry at > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml > > provide a simple foundation for anybody to build their vocabulary on. > > > > cheers, > > > > dret. > > > -- -yaso CeWeb - Centro de estudos sobre tecnologias Web W3C Escritório Brasil NIC.br - CGI.br Phone: 55 11 5509-3537 (4025)
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