Re: Semantic pingback

Thanks Tim, rather interesting ! I just mailed someone from
pingthesemanticweb to ask about their experience with offering this service.
The interesting thing I see with the proposal in this prov document is that
there is no additional RPC involved as what is commonly done with other
pingback services, instead it's just another resource linked from the
de-referenced one. This sounds easier/simpler to put in place.

Christophe


On 3 May 2014 18:04, Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote:

> FWIW, there is also http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-aq/#provenance-pingback
>
> -Tim
>
> On May 3, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Christophe Guéret <
> christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl> wrote:
>
> Actions can only be assigned during the calls can't they ? ;-)
>
> Sure, I'll take care.
>
> Christophe
>
> On 3 May 2014 12:21, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> Forgive me Christophe but I think you just gave yourself an action ;-)
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>> On 03/05/2014 11:00, Christophe Guéret wrote:
>> > +1 too. There used to be a pingthesemanticweb.com that provided such
>> > service but it has been shut down. Here is a document explaining how it
>> > worked: http://www.csee.umbc.edu/courses/691s/notes/PingSemanticWeb.pdf
>> >
>> > Maybe interesting to get in touch with the authors to see why they
>> dropped
>> > it ? If it's a fundamental problem that makes this system unusable for
>> data
>> > publisher we better be aware of it ;-)
>> >
>> > Christophe
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 May 2014 17:32, Ig Ibert Bittencourt <ig.ibert@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Antoine,
>> >>
>> >> +1
>> >>
>> >> This is very great and I think this is very interesting in order for
>> >> provide to publisher the traceability of the resources.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Ig
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2014-05-02 11:12 GMT-03:00 Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>:
>> >>
>> >> Hi everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>> At the end of the call I've pasted a link to the Semantic Pingback
>> >>> project:
>> >>> http://aksw.org/Projects/SemanticPingback.html
>> >>>
>> >>> The idea, if I got it well, was to have the owner of URIs receive a
>> ping
>> >>> when some other datasets link to their URIs. I.e. when these other
>> datasets
>> >>> include statements whose objects (in the RDF sense) are resource from
>> the
>> >>> owner's dataset.
>> >>> This would be very relevant for data usage, especially if we're
>> >>> interested in promoting some pagerank-like approach as alternative to
>> >>> 'traditional' data catalogues'.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>>   Antoine
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Ig Ibert Bittencourt
>> >> Professor Adjunto III - Instituto de Computação/Universidade Federal de
>> >> Alagoas (UFAL)
>> >> Vice-Coordenador da Comissão Especial de Informática na Educação
>> >> Líder do Centro de Excelência em Tecnologias Sociais
>> >> Co-fundador da Startup MeuTutor Soluções Educacionais LTDA.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Phil Archer
>> W3C Data Activity Lead
>> http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
>>
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>> +44 (0)7887 767755
>> @philarcher1
>>
>>
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