- From: Laufer <laufer@globo.com>
- Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:46:53 -0300
- To: Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>
- Cc: Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com>, Manuel.CARRASCO-BENITEZ@ec.europa.eu, Deirdre.Lee@deri.org, Newton Calegari <newton@nic.br>, DWBP WG <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CA+pXJigf05kpX9grc0n-K2t9QaFr_sO6CpmTxLAFbe6rNYXRnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Makx, What I am saying is that a SPARQL endpoint is an API. Laufer 2014-03-18 11:41 GMT-03:00 Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>: > Laufer, > > Your issue is really about Collection Description. Here is some possibly > useful material: http://www.dublincore.org/groups/collections/ and > http://www.dlib.org/dlib/september00/powell/09powell.html. > > The point is that if you want people to find a collection as an > identifiable entity, the collection owner needs to create a Resource with a > URI for the Collection. The description of that Collection can then point > to the members of the Collection. Otherwise, you might be able to do a > SPARQL query to get a set of results. > > Is that what you're asking for? > > Makx. > > > 2014-03-18 15:23 GMT+01:00 Laufer <laufer@globo.com>: > > Steve, Manuel, >> >> I am not talking only about the Resources. Or, what are the things that >> are exposed as Resources. >> >> For example, in DBpedia there is a Resource for the album Houses of the >> Holy (http://dbpedia.org/page/Houses_of_the_Holy). >> There is also a Resource for the record label Atlantic Records ( >> http://dbpedia.org/page/Atlantic_Records), which is the record label >> from the album Houses of the Holy. >> >> What is the URI of all albums of the record label Atlantic Records? >> >> My question is: could it be one Best Practice, recommended by of DWBP WG, >> to provide a way of exposing the "Resource" All Albums of the Record Label >> Atlantic Records? >> >> Best Regards, >> Laufer >> >> >> >> >> 2014-03-18 10:18 GMT-03:00 Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com>: >> >> Thanks. A few people have agreed with our position below, but some still >>> like the idea of API's for accessing Data. What is the process W3C uses to >>> resolve these points of view and when it is resolved, does the conclusion >>> get written into the Best Practices draft and/or do we also include the >>> lineage of the conclusion - that is, we we present the pros and cons and >>> reasons for the conclusion by also relating what we didn't recommend and >>> why? >>> >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again" >>> >>> >>> From: <Manuel.CARRASCO-BENITEZ@ec.europa.eu> To: Steven >>> Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, <Deirdre.Lee@deri.org> Cc: <mail@makxdekkers.com>, >>> <newton@nic.br>, <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org> Date: 03/18/2014 08:21 AM >>> Subject: RE: APIs to work with data on the web >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> - Resources should be addressable with a URI >>> - One should aim a common interface for humans and machine >>> >>> *http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices*<http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices> >>> >>> Regards >>> Tomas >>> >>> *From:* Steven Adler [mailto:adler1@us.ibm.com <adler1@us.ibm.com>] >>> * Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 4:34 PM >>> * To:* Lee, Deirdre >>> * Cc:* Makx Dekkers; Newton Calegari; public-dwbp-wg@w3.org >>> * Subject:* RE: APIs to work with data on the web >>> >>> Excellent use case which begins to explore and spell out the advantages >>> and trade-offs of using API's to access Open Data. I would like to explore >>> this topic in greater detail. My own personal preference is data access by >>> HTTP and URI, because it provides a common interface for humans and >>> machines. But are there performance implications? >>> >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again" >>> >>> From: "Lee, Deirdre" <*Deirdre.Lee@deri.org* <Deirdre.Lee@deri.org>> >>> To: Newton Calegari <*newton@nic.br* <newton@nic.br>>, Makx Dekkers < >>> *mail@makxdekkers.com* <mail@makxdekkers.com>> Cc: " >>> *public-dwbp-wg@w3.org* <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>" < >>> *public-dwbp-wg@w3.org* <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>> Date: 03/17/2014 >>> 11:19 AM Subject: RE: APIs to work with data on the web >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Very interesting article indeed and related to discussions we're >>> currently having with developers as part of Open Data Ireland on how best >>> to publish/use machine-readable data. >>> >>> I've added a use-case on it >>> *https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases*<https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases>Please feel free to add points or pick up on nuances of the conversation >>> that I missed. Perhaps we could break this into multiple use-cases to look >>> at each of the aspects in more detail? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Deirdre >>> >>> >>> * From:* Newton Calegari [*mailto:newton@nic.br* <newton@nic.br>] >>> * Sent:* 17 March 2014 13:19 >>> * To:* Makx Dekkers >>> * Cc:* *public-dwbp-wg@w3.org* <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org> >>> * Subject:* Re: APIs to work with data on the web >>> >>> Hi Laufer, I didn't know the Socrata. >>> Thanks for share the link, Makx. Very interesting text and point of view >>> about APIs. >>> >>> BR, >>> >>> Newton >>> >>> Em 14/03/2014, à(s) 15:58, Makx Dekkers <*mail@makxdekkers.com*<mail@makxdekkers.com>> >>> escreveu: >>> >>> >>> For a different perspective on APIs, see this: >>> *http://ruben.verborgh.org/blog/2013/11/29/the-lie-of-the-api/*<http://ruben.verborgh.org/blog/2013/11/29/the-lie-of-the-api/> >>> >>> Makx. >>> >>> * From:* Newton Calegari [*mailto:newton@nic.br* <newton@nic.br>] >>> * Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:03 PM >>> * To:* *public-dwbp-wg@w3.org* <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org> >>> * Subject:* APIs to work with data on the web >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Last week, Yaso and I were talking about APIs and how they are >>> important in all aspects of data on the web. APIs are one of the simplest >>> ways to access and to distribute data across the web, and we think that is >>> an important subject to be discussed on the WG. >>> To talk about APIs, we obviously need to discuss about URI and >>> descriptors. Carrasco written the first document [*1*<http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices>] >>> about it, besides there are a few messages discussing it. >>> Moreover, I want to share some links I consider relevant and >>> useful to discuss about this topic. >>> Joshua Bloch, a software engineer and former *Googler*, >>> published an article on InfoQ [*2*<http://www.infoq.com/articles/API-Design-Joshua-Bloch?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer36801&utm_medium=twitter#.UvbdCPy0BT0.delicious>] >>> site and made a presentation called "How to Design a Good API & Why it >>> Matters" [*3* <http://www.infoq.com/presentations/effective-api-design>] >>> (other Jushua's presentation about the same subject, but the video is >>> hosted on YouTube [*4* <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAb7hSCtvGw>]). >>> These links are very interesting and I recommend to all of you, even who is >>> already expert in API design. >>> >>> [1] Data on the Web URI Best Practices: >>> *http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices*<http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices> >>> [2] Joshua Bloch: Bumper-Sticker API Design: >>> *http://www.infoq.com/articles/API-Design-Joshua-Bloch?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer36801&utm_medium=twitter#.UvbdCPy0BT0.delicious*<http://www.infoq.com/articles/API-Design-Joshua-Bloch?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer36801&utm_medium=twitter#.UvbdCPy0BT0.delicious> >>> [3] How to Design a Good API & Why it Matters: >>> *http://www.infoq.com/presentations/effective-api-design*<http://www.infoq.com/presentations/effective-api-design> >>> [4] How to Design a Good API & Why it Matters (YouTube version): >>> *https://www.youtube..com/watch?v=aAb7hSCtvGw*<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAb7hSCtvGw> >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Newton >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> . . . .. . . >> . . . .. >> . .. . >> > > > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Makx Dekkers > mail@makxdekkers.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- . . . .. . . . . . .. . .. .
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