Re: Use Case: BetaNYC 3/5

Hi Bernadette,

Great to know you like.

I really agree with you that we need to be more specific during these kinds
of discussions. I'll try this way in the future discussions.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Ig


2014-03-11 8:51 GMT-03:00 Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>:

> Hi Ig and Steve,
>
> I also think that this is a good idea! I also agree that the most
> important  task is related to use a vocab to foster trust and to describe
> metadata(schema).
>
> This is not an easy task, but I think this is a plausible one! However, it
> is important to keep in mind what kind of description could be interesting
> considering that the descriptions can be related with the whole dataset but
> also with some specific concepts. Does it make sense to you?
>
> Cheers,
> Bernadette
>
>
> 2014-03-10 19:34 GMT-03:00 Ig Ibert Bittencourt <ig.ibert@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi Bernadette,
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Yes. I know DBPedia provides an ontology, but as far as I know, it reuses
>> some vocabs (e.g. FOAF, Schema.org and Bibo) but few annotations about the
>> Classes are provided, such as rdfs:label and rdfs:comment. However, nothing
>> related to metadata describing where came from or how it was derived, and
>> so on (see first e-mail).
>>
>> So, I am talking vocabs like DC, Org (perharps aligning with schema.org)
>> and BIBO (extending the use). But I think the most important is to use a
>> vocab to foster trust. This is directly connect to the Quality and
>> Granularity Description Vocabulary (again, see the charter). That's why I
>> think a use case describing it could be interesting.
>>
>> Please, let me know if is plausible or not.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Ig
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-10 17:35 GMT-03:00 Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>:
>>
>> Hi Ig,
>>>
>>> DBpedia already uses a cross-domain ontology [1] to describe the
>>> concepts and relationships available in the DBpedia dataset. In this case,
>>> what kind of vocabs do you think that could be useful to use together with
>>> DBpedia? Could you please give some examples?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bernadette
>>>
>>> [1] http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Ontology
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-10 14:21 GMT-03:00 Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com>:
>>>
>>> So lets talk to DBpedia about that.  They already use RDF ...
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Datasets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  From: Ig Ibert Bittencourt <ig.ibert@gmail.com> To: Christophe Guéret
>>>> <christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl> Cc: Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS,
>>>> Public DWBP WG <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org> Date: 03/10/2014 10:42 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Use Case: BetaNYC 3/5
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Christophe,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your answer.
>>>>
>>>> You are right and I think that's the Steve's proposal to get DBpedia to
>>>> use the vocabs and build a use case on that. For example, one discussion in
>>>> this way is happening in the Public GLD is in this way [1].
>>>>
>>>> Well, perhaps it is still early, but one point for suggesting about the
>>>> use of the vocabs is because we are going to propose an extension of DCAT
>>>> [2] (according to the charter [3]) to Quality and Granularity Description
>>>> Vocabulary. Maybe this is not the best way, but I believe we need to deeply
>>>> understand such vocabs.
>>>>
>>>> All the Best,
>>>> Ig
>>>>
>>>> [1] *http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2014Mar/*<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2014Mar/>
>>>> [2] *http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/*<http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/>
>>>> [3] *http://www.w3.org/2013/05/odbp-charter*<http://www.w3.org/2013/05/odbp-charter>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-03-10 6:54 GMT-03:00 Christophe Guéret <
>>>> *christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl* <christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>>:
>>>> Hoi,
>>>>
>>>> Don't you think we should create some use cases focused on the usage of
>>>> PROV-O, QB, DCAT, ORG... ?
>>>> This sounds a bit awkward to me. I would have expected that the usage
>>>> of the vocabulary would be derived from the use-cases, and not the inverse.
>>>> If we make up use-cases to the aim of illustrating some best practices
>>>> these BP may be disconnected from the concrete happenings...
>>>> Rather, if we would like an existing use-case to use some vocabulary
>>>> instead of something of their own we can suggest this change and try to get
>>>> it implemented, and/or understand why this situation exists.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Christophe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Ig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-03-06 12:51 GMT-03:00 Steven Adler <*adler1@us.ibm.com*<adler1@us.ibm.com>
>>>> >:
>>>>
>>>> Last night, I attended another BetaNYC Hackathon in Brooklyn, where I
>>>> met another group of passionate citizens developing, and learning to
>>>> develop, fascinating apps for Smarter Cities.  This week we were about 15
>>>> people in the room, and we started with a lightning round of "what are you
>>>> working on" descriptions from project leads.  There were only three people
>>>> in the room who had participated in the hackathon the week prior, and this
>>>> is pretty normal.  BetaNYC has 1600 developers registered in their network
>>>> and every week coders rotate in and out of meetups and projects in an
>>>> endless and unplanned cycle that continuously inspires creativity and
>>>> motivation by showcasing new projects.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The first project we heard about came from a local nonprofit called *Tomorrow
>>>> Lab* <http://tomorrow-lab.com/>, who have designed hardware that
>>>> measures how many bikes travel on streets they measure.  It uses simple
>>>> hardware and open source software that connects two sensors with a
>>>> pneumatic tube that measures impressions for weight and axel distance that
>>>> differentiates between bikes and cars.  Its called WayCount.  The text
>>>> below is from their website.  In the room we discussed how WayCount data
>>>> could be combined with NYPD crash reports to more accurately identify the
>>>> spots in NYC where bike accidents per bike numbers occur and identify ways
>>>> to remediate.
>>>>
>>>> WayCount is a platform for crowd-sourcing massive amounts of near
>>>> real-time automobile and bicycle traffic data from a nodal network of
>>>> inexpensive hardware devices.   For the first time ever, you can gather
>>>> accurate volume, rate, and speed measurements of automobiles and bicycles,
>>>> then easily upload and map the information to a central online database.
>>>>  The WayCount device works like other traffic counters, but has two key
>>>> differences: lower cost and open data. At 1/5th price of the least
>>>> expensive comparible product, WayCount is affordable. The WayCount Data
>>>> Uploader allows you to seamlessly upload and map your latest traffic count
>>>> data, making it instantly available to anyone online.
>>>> Collectively, the WayCount user community has the potential to build a
>>>> rich repository of traffic count data for bike paths, city alley ways,
>>>> neighborhood streets, and busy boulevards from around the world. With a
>>>> better understanding of automobile and bicycle ridership patterns, we can
>>>> inform the design of better cities and towns.
>>>>
>>>> The WayCount platform is an important addition to the process of
>>>> measuring the impact of transportation design, and creating livable streets
>>>> by adding bicycle lanes, public spaces, and developing smart transportation
>>>> management systems. By creating open-data, we can increase governmental
>>>> transparency, and provide constituencies with the essential data they need
>>>> to advocate for rational and necessary improvements to the design,
>>>> maintenance, and policy of transportation systems.
>>>>
>>>> The hardware and software of the WayCount device and website were
>>>> designed and engineered by Tomorrow Lab.
>>>>
>>>> WayCount devices are currently for sale on the website, *WayCount.com*<http://waycount.com/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We also discussed some ideas to provide policy makers with better
>>>> sources of Open Data to guide policy discussions, and then broke up into
>>>> four groups focusing on different projects.  One group discussed how to
>>>> save the New York Library on 42nd Street from the imminent transformation
>>>> of its main reading room and function as a lending library.  Another group
>>>> scraped web pages for NYPD crash data for an app comparing accident rates
>>>> across the 5 boroughs.  Some people just spent time talking about who they
>>>> are and what they want to work on, what they want to learn, and how to get
>>>> more involved.
>>>>
>>>> I spent an hour with a young programmer who had worked on the NYC
>>>> Property Tax Map I shared with you last week.  He showed me a Chrome Plugin
>>>> he is working on that provides data about leading politicians whenever
>>>> their names are mentioned on a webpage.  It is called Data Explorer for US
>>>> Politics and it provides some nifty data on things like campaign
>>>> contributions compared to committee assignments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I asked him where he got his data and he showed me *DBpedia*<http://dbpedia.org/About>,
>>>> which "is a crowd-sourced community effort to extract structured
>>>> information from *Wikipedia* <http://wikipedia.org/> and make this
>>>> information available on the Web. DBpedia allows you to ask sophisticated
>>>> queries against Wikipedia, and to link the different data sets on the
>>>> Web to Wikipedia data. We hope that this work will make it easier for the
>>>> huge amount of information in Wikipedia to be used in some new interesting
>>>> ways. Furthermore, it might inspire new mechanisms for navigating, linking,
>>>> and improving the encyclopedia itself. "
>>>>
>>>> Then I asked him how he knows that DBpedia data is accurate and
>>>> reliable and he just looked at me.  "It's on the internet..."  Yeah, and so
>>>> where weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.  But they were only on the
>>>> internet and never in Iraq.  And herein lies a huge problem about Open Data
>>>> on the Web; there is no corroboration of fact, no metadata describing where
>>>> it came from, how it was derived, calculated, presented.  No one attests to
>>>> its veracity, yet we all use it on faith which just ain't good enough.
>>>>
>>>> This is why we have the *W3C Data on the Web Best Practices Working
>>>> Group* <https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page> - to create new
>>>> vocabulary and metadata standards that attach citations and lineage,
>>>> attestations and data quality metrics to Open Data so that everyone can
>>>> understand where it came from, how much to trust it, and even how to
>>>> improve it.
>>>>
>>>> At the end of the evening, we also discussed IBM Smarter Cities, the
>>>> Portland System Dynamics Demo, and the possibility of hosting a BetaNYC
>>>> meetup at IBM on 590 Madison Avenue.  It was a fascinating evening and I
>>>> encourage all to check out the links provided in this writeup and get out
>>>> and join a meetup near you.
>>>>
>>>> Talk to you tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Ig Ibert Bittencourt
>>>> Professor Adjunto III - Universidade Federal de Alagoas (UFAL)
>>>> Vice-Coordenador da Comissão Especial de Informática na Educação
>>>> Líder do Centro de Excelência em Tecnologias Sociais
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>>>> Professor Adjunto III - Universidade Federal de Alagoas (UFAL)
>>>> Vice-Coordenador da Comissão Especial de Informática na Educação
>>>> Líder do Centro de Excelência em Tecnologias Sociais
>>>> Co-fundador da Startup MeuTutor Soluções Educacionais LTDA.
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
>>> Centro de Informática
>>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ig Ibert Bittencourt
>>  Professor Adjunto III - Universidade Federal de Alagoas (UFAL)
>> Vice-Coordenador da Comissão Especial de Informática na Educação
>> Líder do Centro de Excelência em Tecnologias Sociais
>> Co-fundador da Startup MeuTutor Soluções Educacionais LTDA.
>>
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> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
> Centro de Informática
> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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Ig Ibert Bittencourt
Professor Adjunto III - Universidade Federal de Alagoas (UFAL)
Vice-Coordenador da Comissão Especial de Informática na Educação
Líder do Centro de Excelência em Tecnologias Sociais
Co-fundador da Startup MeuTutor Soluções Educacionais LTDA.