- From: Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 20:08:50 -0400
- To: Ig Ibert Bittencourt <ig.ibert@gmail.com>
- Cc: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>, Christophe Guéret <christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>, Public DWBP WG <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <OFA28340FE.2AA3D72D-ON85257C98.00009AD8-85257C98.0000CEE4@us.ibm.com>
Ig, What I like about this idea is that we are taking a live "use case" and then thinking about how to improve it with exising W3C standards as well as exploring what's missing that we can add. This approach can benefit our work and DBpedia. Best Regards, Steve Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again" From: Ig Ibert Bittencourt <ig.ibert@gmail.com> To: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br> Cc: Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, Christophe Guéret <christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>, Public DWBP WG <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org> Date: 03/10/2014 06:35 PM Subject: Re: Use Case: BetaNYC 3/5 Hi Bernadette, Thanks. Yes. I know DBPedia provides an ontology, but as far as I know, it reuses some vocabs (e.g. FOAF, Schema.org and Bibo) but few annotations about the Classes are provided, such as rdfs:label and rdfs:comment. However, nothing related to metadata describing where came from or how it was derived, and so on (see first e-mail). So, I am talking vocabs like DC, Org (perharps aligning with schema.org) and BIBO (extending the use). But I think the most important is to use a vocab to foster trust. This is directly connect to the Quality and Granularity Description Vocabulary (again, see the charter). That's why I think a use case describing it could be interesting. Please, let me know if is plausible or not. All the best, Ig 2014-03-10 17:35 GMT-03:00 Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>: Hi Ig, DBpedia already uses a cross-domain ontology [1] to describe the concepts and relationships available in the DBpedia dataset. In this case, what kind of vocabs do you think that could be useful to use together with DBpedia? Could you please give some examples? Thanks! Cheers, Bernadette [1] http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Ontology 2014-03-10 14:21 GMT-03:00 Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com>: So lets talk to DBpedia about that. They already use RDF ... http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Datasets Best Regards, Steve Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again" From: Ig Ibert Bittencourt <ig.ibert@gmail.com> To: Christophe Guéret <christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl> Cc: Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, Public DWBP WG <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org> Date: 03/10/2014 10:42 AM Subject: Re: Use Case: BetaNYC 3/5 Hi Christophe, Thank you for your answer. You are right and I think that's the Steve's proposal to get DBpedia to use the vocabs and build a use case on that. For example, one discussion in this way is happening in the Public GLD is in this way [1]. Well, perhaps it is still early, but one point for suggesting about the use of the vocabs is because we are going to propose an extension of DCAT [2] (according to the charter [3]) to Quality and Granularity Description Vocabulary. Maybe this is not the best way, but I believe we need to deeply understand such vocabs. All the Best, Ig [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2014Mar/ [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/ [3] http://www.w3.org/2013/05/odbp-charter 2014-03-10 6:54 GMT-03:00 Christophe Guéret < christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>: Hoi, Don't you think we should create some use cases focused on the usage of PROV-O, QB, DCAT, ORG... ? This sounds a bit awkward to me. I would have expected that the usage of the vocabulary would be derived from the use-cases, and not the inverse. If we make up use-cases to the aim of illustrating some best practices these BP may be disconnected from the concrete happenings... Rather, if we would like an existing use-case to use some vocabulary instead of something of their own we can suggest this change and try to get it implemented, and/or understand why this situation exists. Cheers, Christophe Best, Ig 2014-03-06 12:51 GMT-03:00 Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com>: Last night, I attended another BetaNYC Hackathon in Brooklyn, where I met another group of passionate citizens developing, and learning to develop, fascinating apps for Smarter Cities. This week we were about 15 people in the room, and we started with a lightning round of "what are you working on" descriptions from project leads. There were only three people in the room who had participated in the hackathon the week prior, and this is pretty normal. BetaNYC has 1600 developers registered in their network and every week coders rotate in and out of meetups and projects in an endless and unplanned cycle that continuously inspires creativity and motivation by showcasing new projects. The first project we heard about came from a local nonprofit called Tomorrow Lab, who have designed hardware that measures how many bikes travel on streets they measure. It uses simple hardware and open source software that connects two sensors with a pneumatic tube that measures impressions for weight and axel distance that differentiates between bikes and cars. Its called WayCount. The text below is from their website. In the room we discussed how WayCount data could be combined with NYPD crash reports to more accurately identify the spots in NYC where bike accidents per bike numbers occur and identify ways to remediate. WayCount is a platform for crowd-sourcing massive amounts of near real-time automobile and bicycle traffic data from a nodal network of inexpensive hardware devices. For the first time ever, you can gather accurate volume, rate, and speed measurements of automobiles and bicycles, then easily upload and map the information to a central online database. The WayCount device works like other traffic counters, but has two key differences: lower cost and open data. At 1/5th price of the least expensive comparible product, WayCount is affordable. The WayCount Data Uploader allows you to seamlessly upload and map your latest traffic count data, making it instantly available to anyone online. Collectively, the WayCount user community has the potential to build a rich repository of traffic count data for bike paths, city alley ways, neighborhood streets, and busy boulevards from around the world. With a better understanding of automobile and bicycle ridership patterns, we can inform the design of better cities and towns. The WayCount platform is an important addition to the process of measuring the impact of transportation design, and creating livable streets by adding bicycle lanes, public spaces, and developing smart transportation management systems. By creating open-data, we can increase governmental transparency, and provide constituencies with the essential data they need to advocate for rational and necessary improvements to the design, maintenance, and policy of transportation systems. The hardware and software of the WayCount device and website were designed and engineered by Tomorrow Lab. WayCount devices are currently for sale on the website, WayCount.com We also discussed some ideas to provide policy makers with better sources of Open Data to guide policy discussions, and then broke up into four groups focusing on different projects. One group discussed how to save the New York Library on 42nd Street from the imminent transformation of its main reading room and function as a lending library. Another group scraped web pages for NYPD crash data for an app comparing accident rates across the 5 boroughs. Some people just spent time talking about who they are and what they want to work on, what they want to learn, and how to get more involved. I spent an hour with a young programmer who had worked on the NYC Property Tax Map I shared with you last week. He showed me a Chrome Plugin he is working on that provides data about leading politicians whenever their names are mentioned on a webpage. It is called Data Explorer for US Politics and it provides some nifty data on things like campaign contributions compared to committee assignments. I asked him where he got his data and he showed me DBpedia, which "is a crowd-sourced community effort to extract structured information from Wikipedia and make this information available on the Web. DBpedia allows you to ask sophisticated queries against Wikipedia, and to link the different data sets on the Web to Wikipedia data. We hope that this work will make it easier for the huge amount of information in Wikipedia to be used in some new interesting ways. Furthermore, it might inspire new mechanisms for navigating, linking, and improving the encyclopedia itself. " Then I asked him how he knows that DBpedia data is accurate and reliable and he just looked at me. "It's on the internet..." Yeah, and so where weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But they were only on the internet and never in Iraq. And herein lies a huge problem about Open Data on the Web; there is no corroboration of fact, no metadata describing where it came from, how it was derived, calculated, presented. No one attests to its veracity, yet we all use it on faith which just ain't good enough. This is why we have the W3C Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group - to create new vocabulary and metadata standards that attach citations and lineage, attestations and data quality metrics to Open Data so that everyone can understand where it came from, how much to trust it, and even how to improve it. At the end of the evening, we also discussed IBM Smarter Cities, the Portland System Dynamics Demo, and the possibility of hosting a BetaNYC meetup at IBM on 590 Madison Avenue. It was a fascinating evening and I encourage all to check out the links provided in this writeup and get out and join a meetup near you. Talk to you tomorrow. Best Regards, Steve Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again" -- Ig Ibert Bittencourt Professor Adjunto III - Universidade Federal de Alagoas (UFAL) Vice-Coordenador da Comissão Especial de Informática na Educação Líder do Centro de Excelência em Tecnologias Sociais Co-fundador da Startup MeuTutor Soluções Educacionais LTDA. -- Onderzoeker +31(0)6 14576494 christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl Data Archiving and Networked Services (DANS) DANS bevordert duurzame toegang tot digitale onderzoeksgegevens. Kijk op www.dans.knaw.nl voor meer informatie. DANS is een instituut van KNAW en NWO. Let op, per 1 januari hebben we een nieuw adres: DANS | Anna van Saksenlaan 51 | 2593 HW Den Haag | Postbus 93067 | 2509 AB Den Haag | +31 70 349 44 50 | info@dans.knaw.nl | www.dans.knaw.nl Let's build a World Wide Semantic Web! http://worldwidesemanticweb.org/ e-Humanities Group (KNAW) -- Ig Ibert Bittencourt Professor Adjunto III - Universidade Federal de Alagoas (UFAL) Vice-Coordenador da Comissão Especial de Informática na Educação Líder do Centro de Excelência em Tecnologias Sociais Co-fundador da Startup MeuTutor Soluções Educacionais LTDA. -- Bernadette Farias Lóscio Centro de Informática Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Ig Ibert Bittencourt Professor Adjunto III - Universidade Federal de Alagoas (UFAL) Vice-Coordenador da Comissão Especial de Informática na Educação Líder do Centro de Excelência em Tecnologias Sociais Co-fundador da Startup MeuTutor Soluções Educacionais LTDA.
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