- From: Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 04:05:10 -0800
- To: Andrea Perego <andrea.perego@jrc.ec.europa.eu>
- Cc: W3C DWBP WG - Comments <public-dwbp-comments@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAMFz4jgdfjaQUJ9oVTbp5OV+QDQhU6zOzLZx15Z66udfRKkqwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Andrea, I like your suggestion (below), but I wonder if the note should be put in a summary document in terms of contributions from the working group. I'll bring this issue forward to the chairs at tomorrow's meeting. Thanks Eric S I still think that the different naming of DQV and DUV may be misleading, but I also understand that the name cannot be changed at this stage. Maybe this can be addressed by adding a brief note - which could also be used to clarify the relationship between DUV and DQV, and how they complement each other. On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:30 AM, Andrea Perego < andrea.perego@jrc.ec.europa.eu> wrote: > Dear Eric, > > Many thanks for explaining the background for the naming of DUV. > > About the vocabulary scope, I understand that both DUV and DQV are > aligned, since they are built around the notions of dataset and > distribution. On the other hand, I haven't found in the two vocabularies > domain / range restrictions formally preventing their use with single data > items or other types of resources. Which, IMHO, is a good thing, since it > leaves them open to be used in scenarios that may have not emerged during > the design of these vocabularies. > > I still think that the different naming of DQV and DUV may be misleading, > but I also understand that the name cannot be changed at this stage. Maybe > this can be addressed by adding a brief note - which could also be used to > clarify the relationship between DUV and DQV, and how they complement each > other. > > Cheers, > > Andrea > > > > On 15/11/2016 15:07, Eric Stephan wrote: > >> Andrea, >> >> Apologies for missing your note. Thank you Riccardo for calling this to >> our attention. >> >> First thank you for your comments and pointing out the inconsistency of >> the use of "Dataset Usage Vocabulary" and "Data Usage Vocabulary" in the >> DUV document. Because we are nearing the end of our working group, I >> think we need to retain Dataset Usage Vocabulary although I entirely >> understand the reason for your question. >> >> In one of our early F2F meetings in Austin Texas we settled upon >> "Dataset Usage Vocabulary", at the time we chose build around the DCAT >> vocabulary and constrain usage to DCAT:Dataset and DCAT:Distribution. >> The thinking at the time was that the term data was too vague when it >> came to providing feedback, citing, or usage. For instance questions >> were raised that unless some constraints were put into place how do you >> cite "data". There are arguments that can be made about identifying >> data as a subset using dataset or distribution. We chose to think of >> the constituents of a dataset refined down to the level of distribution. >> >> While I am not on the Data Quality Vocabulary team, I do understand that >> in the context of describing quality you want to be able to have a whole >> range of flexibility assessing the characteristics of an entire dataset >> down to the level of a scalar value. >> >> Having said all this I open to suggestions to help make our text clearer >> describing our approach. >> >> Does this make sense? >> >> Eric S. >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Andrea Perego >> <andrea.perego@jrc.ec.europa.eu <mailto:andrea.perego@jrc.ec.europa.eu>> >> >> wrote: >> >> Dear DWBP WG, >> >> I don't know if this issue has already been reported or discussed, >> but I noticed that DUV is referred to inconsistently in both the DUV >> and the DQV specifications (actually, I haven't checked the other >> DWBP specifications). >> >> More precisely, although the "official" name of DUV is "dataset >> usage Vocabulary", sometimes it is cited as "data usage vocabulary". >> >> I take this opportunity also to raise a question on the choice >> behind the official name of DUV - i.e., whether there's a reason for >> using "dataset usage" instead of "data usage". Personally, I think >> that it may be misleading, also because DQV = "*data* quality >> vocabulary". As far as I can see, their scope is not different - >> they're both about *data*. So why call them differently? >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Andrea >> >> -- >> Andrea Perego, Ph.D. >> Scientific / Technical Project Officer >> European Commission DG JRC >> Directorate B - Growth and Innovation >> Unit B6 - Digital Economy >> Via E. Fermi, 2749 - TP 262 >> 21027 Ispra VA, Italy >> >> https://ec.europa.eu/jrc/ >> >> ---- >> The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may >> not in any circumstances be regarded as stating an official >> position of the European Commission. >> >> >> > -- > Andrea Perego, Ph.D. > Scientific / Technical Project Officer > European Commission DG JRC > Directorate B - Growth and Innovation > Unit B6 - Digital Economy > Via E. Fermi, 2749 - TP 262 > 21027 Ispra VA, Italy > > https://ec.europa.eu/jrc/ > > ---- > The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may > not in any circumstances be regarded as stating an official > position of the European Commission. >
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