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Agenda - (Re: DPVCG next call(s))

From: Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@wu.ac.at>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:49:40 +0200
Message-Id: <45D4050C-6F2B-42AA-AAF5-AA86F5AD357E@wu.ac.at>
Cc: Eva Schlehahn <uld67@datenschutzzentrum.de>
To: public-dpvcg@w3.org
Dear all,

being back from MyData, I would like to focus today mainly on reporting back and discussing how we can progress on sorting our collected inputs and setting the scope of our group. 

We will use the same WebEx conference codes as two weeks ago. See here for how 
to connect:

  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-dpvcg/2018Aug/0000.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-dpvcg/2018Aug/0000.html>

Suggested agenda (pretty much the "default" agenda):

1) Roll call, select scribe, agenda

2) Minutes of last telcon
  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2018Aug/0039.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2018Aug/0039.html>

3) Action items
  https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open>

4) MyData 2018, reporting back & DPVCG scope (Axel)
  https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/>

5) New Use cases & templates
  https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_use-cases <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_use-cases>
  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2018Aug/0017.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2018Aug/0017.html>

6) New vocabularies
  added some more in the light of MyData

7) Requirements
  We were hoping for discussion of requirements on the mailing list...

8) AOB

--
Prof. Dr. Axel Polleres
Institute for Information Business, WU Vienna
url: http://www.polleres.net/  twitter: @AxelPolleres



> Am 28.08.2018 um 19:06 schrieb Axel Polleres:
>> Sorry for the confusion, was looking at the wrong week in the calendar, the next call should actually have been
>> 
>>> 	Tue, 4 September 2018, 16:00-17:00
>> 
>> (although I know that several people will be travelling or busy with review preparations, so, maybe let us know on the list whether you can attend or send regrets to get a feeling about attendance)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Axel
>> 
>> --
>> Prof. Dr. Axel Polleres
>> Institute for Information Business, WU Vienna
>> url: http://www.polleres.net/  twitter: @AxelPolleres
>> 
>>> On 28.08.2018, at 13:53, Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@wu.ac.at> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> As mentioned in the call last time, we will try to find a way to connect via WebEx to MyData for these two slots:
>>> 
>>> 	1) https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/>  August 30, 2018, 10:00 am-11:15 am (Eastern European Time), maybe I even manage to broadcast my presentation to the group's Webex, but can't promise yet, FWIW, my slides, the first half of which is mainly about DPVCG are here [1], the second half is on SPECIAL and will be presented by Ben.
>>> 
>>> 	2) https://mydata2018.org/programme/open-space/ <https://mydata2018.org/programme/open-space/>  Open Space August 30, 2018 with  slots between 13:30 and 18:00 (Eastern European Time), but due to the dynamic agenda building of Open Space I could not get a fixed slot, if during the agenda building phase at noon we manage to get a slot for DPVCG, I will announce it per mail to the group.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As for the next regular call, I just realize we didn't announce it in last meeting's minutes. I propose we keep up the regular 2-weeks slot on Tue 16:00 which makes the next call:
>>> 
>>> 	Tue, 18 September 2018, 16:00-17:00
>>> 
>>> The agenda will be sent in advance, please - as usual - try to make progress with the assigned ACTIONs and we will hopefully manage to hear each other during the MyData conference.
>>> 
>>> best regards,
>>> Axel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1. http://polleres.net/presentations/ <http://polleres.net/presentations/>
>>> --
>>> Prof. Dr. Axel Polleres
>>> Institute for Information Business, WU Vienna
>>> url: http://www.polleres.net/ <http://www.polleres.net/>  twitter: @AxelPolleres
>>> 
>>>> On 21.08.2018, at 21:47, Bert Bos <bert@w3.org <mailto:bert@w3.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In HTML at
>>>> 
>>>>    https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-minutes.html <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-minutes.html>
>>>> 
>>>> and in text below:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   [1]W3C
>>>> 
>>>>      [1] https://www.w3.org/ <https://www.w3.org/>
>>>> 
>>>>                             – DRAFT –
>>>> Data Privacy Vocabularies and Controls Community Group Teleconference
>>>> 
>>>> 21 August 2018
>>>> 
>>>>   [2]Previous meeting [3]Agenda [4]IRC log
>>>> 
>>>>      [2] https://www.w3.org/2018/08/07-dpvcg-minutes.html <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/07-dpvcg-minutes.html>
>>>>      [3] https://www.w3.org/mid/10915096.tUU11HEPGs@nyx <https://www.w3.org/mid/10915096.tUU11HEPGs@nyx>
>>>>      [4] https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-irc <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-irc>
>>>> 
>>>> Attendees
>>>> 
>>>>   Present
>>>>          Axel, Bert, Harald, Harsh, Javier, Ramisa, Simon
>>>>          (simonstey)
>>>> 
>>>>   Regrets
>>>>          Eva
>>>> 
>>>>   Chair
>>>>          Bert
>>>> 
>>>>   Scribe
>>>>          AxelPollleres, simonstey
>>>> 
>>>> Contents
>>>> 
>>>>     * [5]Meeting Minutes
>>>>         1. [6]Roll call, select scribe, agenda
>>>>         2. [7]Minutes of last call
>>>>         3. [8]Action items
>>>>         4. [9]how to combine vocabularies
>>>>     * [10]Summary of Action Items
>>>>     * [11]Summary of Resolutions
>>>> 
>>>> Meeting Minutes
>>>> 
>>>> Roll call, select scribe, agenda
>>>> 
>>>>   Bert: any topics missing?
>>>> 
>>>> Minutes of last call
>>>> 
>>>>   Bert: hearing no objections
>>>> 
>>>> Action items
>>>> 
>>>>   <Bert> [12]actions
>>>> 
>>>>     [12] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open>
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> action-3
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> action-3 -- Bert Bos to Clarify which github space
>>>>   we can use W3C's github space or if we need something else --
>>>>   due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> [13]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>>   actions/3
>>>> 
>>>>     [13] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/3 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/3>
>>>> 
>>>>   bert: Bert will create a git repo soon.
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> close action-3
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> Closed action-3.
>>>> 
>>>>   close action 3
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> action-6
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> action-6 -- Michael Markevich to Draft something
>>>>   about Opera use case(s) -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> [14]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>>   actions/6
>>>> 
>>>>     [14] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/6 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/6>
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> action-7
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> action-7 -- Bert Bos to Add some overview of SPECIAL
>>>>   use case(s) -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> [15]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>>   actions/7
>>>> 
>>>>     [15] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/7 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/7>
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> action-8
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> action-8 -- Axel Polleres to Add some more starting
>>>>   point vocabulary stubs -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> [16]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>>   actions/8
>>>> 
>>>>     [16] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/8 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/8>
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> close action-8
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> Closed action-8.
>>>> 
>>>>   close action-8
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> Closed action-8.
>>>> 
>>>>   <Bert> action-9
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> action-9 -- Axel Polleres to Include links to irc
>>>>   and minutes into the agenda next time -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> [17]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>>   actions/9
>>>> 
>>>>     [17] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/9 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/9>
>>>> 
>>>>   <Bert> action-10
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> action-10 -- Axel Polleres to Organize a call later
>>>>   on 30th after the mydata session or on friday morning to sync
>>>>   with people jooining through the conference.... will contact
>>>>   organizers. -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> [18]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>>   actions/10
>>>> 
>>>>     [18] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/10 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/10>
>>>> 
>>>>   on 29th a dinner table for dinner table for "Semantic
>>>>   Interoparability" at Manala restaurant
>>>> 
>>>>   [19]http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en <http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en>
>>>> 
>>>>     [19] http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en <http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en>
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> Notes added to action-10 Organize a call later on
>>>>   30th after the mydata session or on friday morning to sync with
>>>>   people jooining through the conference.... will contact
>>>>   organizers..
>>>> 
>>>>   our session is on 30th in the morning:
>>>> 
>>>>   [20]https://mydata2018.org/sessions/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/>
>>>>   semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/
>>>> 
>>>>     [20] https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/>
>>>> 
>>>>   on 30th afternoon [21]https://mydata2018.org/sessions/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/>
>>>>   agenda-setting-for-open-space/
>>>> 
>>>>     [21] https://mydata2018.org/sessions/agenda-setting-for-open-space/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/agenda-setting-for-open-space/>
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> AxelPollleres: organizing an openspace session too
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> ... openspace session is after lunch, don't know
>>>>   which session it will be exactly though
>>>> 
>>>>   enough bandwidth given we will try to dial in the group for the
>>>>   open space session,
>>>> 
>>>>   [22]https://mydata2018.org/programme/ <https://mydata2018.org/programme/>
>>>> 
>>>>     [22] https://mydata2018.org/programme/ <https://mydata2018.org/programme/>
>>>> 
>>>>   there are 4 open space sessions yet, not yet sure what slot we
>>>>   get.
>>>> 
>>>>   Action: axel to talk to Joss about Mydata open space session
>>>>   and maybe try to pre-fix a slot.
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Talk to joss about mydata open
>>>>   space session and maybe try to pre-fix a slot. [on Axel
>>>>   Polleres - due 2018-08-28].
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> action-11
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> action-11 -- Axel Polleres to Reach out to
>>>>   industrial data spaces project (germany) and another austrian
>>>>   big data project (dma). -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> [23]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>>   actions/11
>>>> 
>>>>     [23] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/11 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/11>
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> action-12
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> action-12 -- Simon Steyskal to Look over
>>>>   requirements template -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> [24]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>>   actions/12
>>>> 
>>>>     [24] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/12 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/12>
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> [25]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/>
>>>>   Template_for_requirements
>>>> 
>>>>     [25] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements>
>>>> 
>>>>   [26]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/>
>>>>   Template_for_requirements
>>>> 
>>>>     [26] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements>
>>>> 
>>>>   Simon: the template allows to vote on requirements in between
>>>>   calls.
>>>> 
>>>>   Action: Axel to try to modify the rquirements teamplate and
>>>>   instantiate it for some of the items on [27]https://www.w3.org/ <https://www.w3.org/>
>>>>   community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies
>>>> 
>>>>     [27] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies>
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Try to modify the rquirements
>>>>   teamplate and instantiate it for some of the items on
>>>>   [28]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/>
>>>>   use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies [on Axel Polleres - due
>>>>   2018-08-28].
>>>> 
>>>>     [28] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies>
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> action-13
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> action-13 -- Stefano Bocconi to Propose use case(s)
>>>>   for the decode project -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> [29]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>>   actions/13
>>>> 
>>>>     [29] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/13 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/13>
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> action-14
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> action-14 -- Axel Polleres to Ask hendrik for
>>>>   edition ieee 7012 -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> [30]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>>   actions/14
>>>> 
>>>>     [30] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/14 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/14>
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> [31]https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/ <https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/>
>>>>   7012.html
>>>> 
>>>>     [31] https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html <https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html>
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> action-15
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> action-15 -- Eva Schlehahn to look over use cases
>>>>   template -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> [32]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>>   actions/15
>>>> 
>>>>     [32] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/15 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/15>
>>>> 
>>>>   <Bert> [33]Eva's e-mail on use case template
>>>> 
>>>>     [33] https://www.w3.org/mid/9412d9d7-2aac-1d3b-f9f1-d0c0799d0369@datenschutzzentrum.de <https://www.w3.org/mid/9412d9d7-2aac-1d3b-f9f1-d0c0799d0369@datenschutzzentrum.de>
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> AxelPollleres: Ben and I will talk about our
>>>>   efforts
>>>> 
>>>>   <Eva__ULD_> I sent my suggestions on the use case and on the
>>>>   requirements templates per email - so action done ;)
>>>> 
>>>>   Action: Javier to update the use case template wrt. Eva's
>>>>   version
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> Error finding 'Javier'. You can review and register
>>>>   nicknames at <[34]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
>>>>   users>.
>>>> 
>>>>     [34] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users>>.
>>>> 
>>>>   Javier: we probably need first the use cases to discuss more
>>>>   about requirements
>>>> 
>>>>   Axel: we should take the list from the workshop as starting
>>>>   points, see action above.
>>>> 
>>>> how to combine vocabularies
>>>> 
>>>>   <Eva__ULD_> I think it might depend heavily on the use cases
>>>>   which kind of taxonomies and vocabularies we need
>>>> 
>>>>   <harsh> Seems audio isn't working :(
>>>> 
>>>>   <harsh> But I agree with Axel
>>>> 
>>>>   maybe try typing? :-)
>>>> 
>>>>   <harsh> My question was: in light of what we discussed, should
>>>>   we start listing concepts and properties from listed
>>>>   vocabularies we might find interesting
>>>> 
>>>>   Can we agree that our goal is to work within one namespace and
>>>>   connect to it, instead of creating a coglomerate of
>>>>   voabularies?
>>>> 
>>>>   simon: I don't think we should invent an own use case, if we
>>>>   have one vocab that covers all.
>>>>   … we maybe only need a "best practices" document.
>>>>   … in ORDL you can specify consent, but not it's components.
>>>> 
>>>>   Axel: I think we could have a JSON-LD profile that describes
>>>>   the whole policies.
>>>>   … and collect our core terms.
>>>>   … single namespace we mape to or JSON-LD profile combining
>>>>   different namespaces, is not so relevant in the end, but
>>>>   coherend presentation of the terms we support and need.
>>>> 
>>>>   Javier: Are we closing the use cases or are we calling for
>>>>   external use cases?
>>>>   … so far they seem close to a couple of European projects.
>>>> 
>>>>   <harsh> Perhaps we could have a cut-off line for use-cases,
>>>>   after which we turn those collected use-cases into
>>>>   requirements?
>>>> 
>>>>   Axel: we need more use cases and should spread the word as far
>>>>   as we can.
>>>> 
>>>>   <harsh> Issue would be a good idea
>>>> 
>>>>   ISSUE: timeline/schedule, when should we stop collecting
>>>>   additional use cases?
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> Created ISSUE-1 - Timeline/schedule, when should we
>>>>   stop collecting additional use cases?. Please complete
>>>>   additional details at <[35]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/>
>>>>   track/issues/1/edit>.
>>>> 
>>>>     [35] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/1/edit <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/1/edit>>.
>>>> 
>>>>   ISSUE-1: postponed until after Mydata
>>>> 
>>>>   <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-1 Timeline/schedule, when
>>>>   should we stop collecting additional use cases?.
>>>> 
>>>>   PROPOSED: next call 4 september, same time
>>>> 
>>>>   <AxelPollleres>+1:-)
>>>> 
>>>>   <simonstey> +1
>>>> 
>>>>   <Ramisa> +1
>>>> 
>>>>   Resolved: next call 4 september, same time.
>>>> 
>>>>   adjourned.
>>>> 
>>>> Summary of Action Items
>>>> 
>>>>    1. [36]axel to talk to Joss about Mydata open space session
>>>>       and maybe try to pre-fix a slot.
>>>>    2. [37]Axel to try to modify the rquirements teamplate and
>>>>       instantiate it for some of the items on https://www.w3.org/ <https://www.w3.org/>
>>>>       community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies
>>>>    3. [38]Javier to update the use case template wrt. Eva's
>>>>       version
>>>> 
>>>> Summary of Resolutions
>>>> 
>>>>    1. [39]next call 4 september, same time.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    Minutes formatted by Bert Bos's [40]scribe.perl version 2.41
>>>>    (2018/03/23 13:13:49), a reimplementation of David Booth's
>>>>    [41]scribe.perl. See [42]CVS log.
>>>> 
>>>>     [40] https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe2/scribedoc.html <https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe2/scribedoc.html>
>>>>     [41] https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm <https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm>
>>>>     [42] https://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe2/ <https://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe2/>
>>>> 
>>>> Diagnostics
>>>> 
>>>>   Succeeded: i/any topics missing/Topic: Roll call, select
>>>>   scribe, agenda
>>>> 
>>>>   Succeeded: s/surewhat/sure what/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bert
>>>> -- 
>>>>  Bert Bos                                ( W 3 C ) http://www.w3.org/ <http://www.w3.org/>
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/people/bos <http://www.w3.org/people/bos>                               W3C/ERCIM
>>>>  bert@w3.org <mailto:bert@w3.org>                             2004 Rt des Lucioles / BP 93
>>>>  +33 (0)4 92 38 76 92            06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
>> 
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