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Re: Agenda for coming Tueday's DPVCG call

From: Simon Steyskal <simon.steyskal@wu.ac.at>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 19:01:13 +0200
To: public-dpvcg@w3.org
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regrets for next call, I'm on vacationbr simon
-------- Original message --------From: Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@wu.ac.at> Date: 10/13/18  18:46  (GMT+01:00) To: public-dpvcg@w3.org Subject: Agenda for coming Tueday's DPVCG call 
Dear all,
We should talk on Tuesday about how we can start on particular vocabularies and definitions..
Find below the agenda:
For dial-in info, cf. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-dpvcg/2018Aug/0000.htmlAlso, please join us on IRC: http://irc.w3.org/ --> join channel #dpvcg
Agenda:
1) Roll call, select scribe, agenda

2) Approval of last telcon's minutes:
  https://www.w3.org/2018/09/18-dpvcg-minutes

3) Go through action items
  https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open

4) Definitions, cf. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2018Oct/0004.html

5) Plan next meeting(s) and revisit timeline, particularly: F2F in Nov or Dec (around EBDVF or ICT18, both in Vienna)

6) AOB
Talk to you on Tuesday & best regards,Axel

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Am 28.08.2018 um 19:06 schrieb Axel Polleres:
Sorry for the confusion, was looking at the wrong week in the calendar, the next call should actually have been

	Tue, 4 September 2018, 16:00-17:00

(although I know that several people will be travelling or busy with review preparations, so, maybe let us know on the list whether you can attend or send regrets to get a feeling about attendance)

Thanks,
Axel

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On 28.08.2018, at 13:53, Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@wu.ac.at> wrote:

Dear all,

As mentioned in the call last time, we will try to find a way to connect via WebEx to MyData for these two slots:

	1) https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/>  August 30, 2018, 10:00 am-11:15 am (Eastern European Time), maybe I even manage to broadcast my presentation to the group's Webex, but can't promise yet, FWIW, my slides, the first half of which is mainly about DPVCG are here [1], the second half is on SPECIAL and will be presented by Ben.

	2) https://mydata2018.org/programme/open-space/ <https://mydata2018.org/programme/open-space/>  Open Space August 30, 2018 with  slots between 13:30 and 18:00 (Eastern European Time), but due to the dynamic agenda building of Open Space I could not get a fixed slot, if during the agenda building phase at noon we manage to get a slot for DPVCG, I will announce it per mail to the group.


As for the next regular call, I just realize we didn't announce it in last meeting's minutes. I propose we keep up the regular 2-weeks slot on Tue 16:00 which makes the next call:

	Tue, 18 September 2018, 16:00-17:00

The agenda will be sent in advance, please - as usual - try to make progress with the assigned ACTIONs and we will hopefully manage to hear each other during the MyData conference.

best regards,
Axel


1. http://polleres.net/presentations/ <http://polleres.net/presentations/>
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Institute for Information Business, WU Vienna
url: http://www.polleres.net/ <http://www.polleres.net/>  twitter: @AxelPolleres

On 21.08.2018, at 21:47, Bert Bos <bert@w3.org <mailto:bert@w3.org>> wrote:

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    https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-minutes.html <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-minutes.html>

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   [1]W3C

      [1] https://www.w3.org/ <https://www.w3.org/>

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Data Privacy Vocabularies and Controls Community Group Teleconference

21 August 2018

   [2]Previous meeting [3]Agenda [4]IRC log

      [2] https://www.w3.org/2018/08/07-dpvcg-minutes.html <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/07-dpvcg-minutes.html>
      [3] https://www.w3.org/mid/10915096.tUU11HEPGs@nyx <https://www.w3.org/mid/10915096.tUU11HEPGs@nyx>
      [4] https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-irc <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-irc>

Attendees

   Present
          Axel, Bert, Harald, Harsh, Javier, Ramisa, Simon
          (simonstey)

   Regrets
          Eva

   Chair
          Bert

   Scribe
          AxelPollleres, simonstey

Contents

     * [5]Meeting Minutes
         1. [6]Roll call, select scribe, agenda
         2. [7]Minutes of last call
         3. [8]Action items
         4. [9]how to combine vocabularies
     * [10]Summary of Action Items
     * [11]Summary of Resolutions

Meeting Minutes

Roll call, select scribe, agenda

   Bert: any topics missing?

Minutes of last call

   Bert: hearing no objections

Action items

   <Bert> [12]actions

     [12] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open>

   <simonstey> action-3

   <trackbot> action-3 -- Bert Bos to Clarify which github space
   we can use W3C's github space or if we need something else --
   due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [13]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
   actions/3

     [13] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/3 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/3>

   bert: Bert will create a git repo soon.

   <simonstey> close action-3

   <trackbot> Closed action-3.

   close action 3

   <simonstey> action-6

   <trackbot> action-6 -- Michael Markevich to Draft something
   about Opera use case(s) -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [14]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
   actions/6

     [14] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/6 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/6>

   <simonstey> action-7

   <trackbot> action-7 -- Bert Bos to Add some overview of SPECIAL
   use case(s) -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [15]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
   actions/7

     [15] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/7 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/7>

   <simonstey> action-8

   <trackbot> action-8 -- Axel Polleres to Add some more starting
   point vocabulary stubs -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [16]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
   actions/8

     [16] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/8 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/8>

   <simonstey> close action-8

   <trackbot> Closed action-8.

   close action-8

   <trackbot> Closed action-8.

   <Bert> action-9

   <trackbot> action-9 -- Axel Polleres to Include links to irc
   and minutes into the agenda next time -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [17]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
   actions/9

     [17] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/9 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/9>

   <Bert> action-10

   <trackbot> action-10 -- Axel Polleres to Organize a call later
   on 30th after the mydata session or on friday morning to sync
   with people jooining through the conference.... will contact
   organizers. -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [18]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
   actions/10

     [18] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/10 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/10>

   on 29th a dinner table for dinner table for "Semantic
   Interoparability" at Manala restaurant

   [19]http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en <http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en>

     [19] http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en <http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en>

   <trackbot> Notes added to action-10 Organize a call later on
   30th after the mydata session or on friday morning to sync with
   people jooining through the conference.... will contact
   organizers..

   our session is on 30th in the morning:

   [20]https://mydata2018.org/sessions/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/>
   semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/

     [20] https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/>

   on 30th afternoon [21]https://mydata2018.org/sessions/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/>
   agenda-setting-for-open-space/

     [21] https://mydata2018.org/sessions/agenda-setting-for-open-space/ <https://mydata2018.org/sessions/agenda-setting-for-open-space/>

   <simonstey> AxelPollleres: organizing an openspace session too

   <simonstey> ... openspace session is after lunch, don't know
   which session it will be exactly though

   enough bandwidth given we will try to dial in the group for the
   open space session,

   [22]https://mydata2018.org/programme/ <https://mydata2018.org/programme/>

     [22] https://mydata2018.org/programme/ <https://mydata2018.org/programme/>

   there are 4 open space sessions yet, not yet sure what slot we
   get.

   Action: axel to talk to Joss about Mydata open space session
   and maybe try to pre-fix a slot.

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Talk to joss about mydata open
   space session and maybe try to pre-fix a slot. [on Axel
   Polleres - due 2018-08-28].

   <simonstey> action-11

   <trackbot> action-11 -- Axel Polleres to Reach out to
   industrial data spaces project (germany) and another austrian
   big data project (dma). -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [23]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
   actions/11

     [23] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/11 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/11>

   <simonstey> action-12

   <trackbot> action-12 -- Simon Steyskal to Look over
   requirements template -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [24]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
   actions/12

     [24] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/12 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/12>

   <simonstey> [25]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/>
   Template_for_requirements

     [25] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements>

   [26]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/>
   Template_for_requirements

     [26] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements>

   Simon: the template allows to vote on requirements in between
   calls.

   Action: Axel to try to modify the rquirements teamplate and
   instantiate it for some of the items on [27]https://www.w3.org/ <https://www.w3.org/>
   community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies

     [27] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies>

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Try to modify the rquirements
   teamplate and instantiate it for some of the items on
   [28]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/>
   use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies [on Axel Polleres - due
   2018-08-28].

     [28] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies>

   <simonstey> action-13

   <trackbot> action-13 -- Stefano Bocconi to Propose use case(s)
   for the decode project -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [29]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
   actions/13

     [29] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/13 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/13>

   <simonstey> action-14

   <trackbot> action-14 -- Axel Polleres to Ask hendrik for
   edition ieee 7012 -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [30]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
   actions/14

     [30] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/14 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/14>

   <simonstey> [31]https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/ <https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/>
   7012.html

     [31] https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html <https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html>

   <simonstey> action-15

   <trackbot> action-15 -- Eva Schlehahn to look over use cases
   template -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [32]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
   actions/15

     [32] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/15 <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/15>

   <Bert> [33]Eva's e-mail on use case template

     [33] https://www.w3.org/mid/9412d9d7-2aac-1d3b-f9f1-d0c0799d0369@datenschutzzentrum.de <https://www.w3.org/mid/9412d9d7-2aac-1d3b-f9f1-d0c0799d0369@datenschutzzentrum.de>

   <simonstey> AxelPollleres: Ben and I will talk about our
   efforts

   <Eva__ULD_> I sent my suggestions on the use case and on the
   requirements templates per email - so action done ;)

   Action: Javier to update the use case template wrt. Eva's
   version

   <trackbot> Error finding 'Javier'. You can review and register
   nicknames at <[34]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/>
   users>.

     [34] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users>>.

   Javier: we probably need first the use cases to discuss more
   about requirements

   Axel: we should take the list from the workshop as starting
   points, see action above.

how to combine vocabularies

   <Eva__ULD_> I think it might depend heavily on the use cases
   which kind of taxonomies and vocabularies we need

   <harsh> Seems audio isn't working :(

   <harsh> But I agree with Axel

   maybe try typing? :-)

   <harsh> My question was: in light of what we discussed, should
   we start listing concepts and properties from listed
   vocabularies we might find interesting

   Can we agree that our goal is to work within one namespace and
   connect to it, instead of creating a coglomerate of
   voabularies?

   simon: I don't think we should invent an own use case, if we
   have one vocab that covers all.
   … we maybe only need a "best practices" document.
   … in ORDL you can specify consent, but not it's components.

   Axel: I think we could have a JSON-LD profile that describes
   the whole policies.
   … and collect our core terms.
   … single namespace we mape to or JSON-LD profile combining
   different namespaces, is not so relevant in the end, but
   coherend presentation of the terms we support and need.

   Javier: Are we closing the use cases or are we calling for
   external use cases?
   … so far they seem close to a couple of European projects.

   <harsh> Perhaps we could have a cut-off line for use-cases,
   after which we turn those collected use-cases into
   requirements?

   Axel: we need more use cases and should spread the word as far
   as we can.

   <harsh> Issue would be a good idea

   ISSUE: timeline/schedule, when should we stop collecting
   additional use cases?

   <trackbot> Created ISSUE-1 - Timeline/schedule, when should we
   stop collecting additional use cases?. Please complete
   additional details at <[35]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/ <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/>
   track/issues/1/edit>.

     [35] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/1/edit <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/1/edit>>.

   ISSUE-1: postponed until after Mydata

   <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-1 Timeline/schedule, when
   should we stop collecting additional use cases?.

   PROPOSED: next call 4 september, same time

   <AxelPollleres>+1:-)

   <simonstey> +1

   <Ramisa> +1

   Resolved: next call 4 september, same time.

   adjourned.

Summary of Action Items

    1. [36]axel to talk to Joss about Mydata open space session
       and maybe try to pre-fix a slot.
    2. [37]Axel to try to modify the rquirements teamplate and
       instantiate it for some of the items on https://www.w3.org/ <https://www.w3.org/>
       community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies
    3. [38]Javier to update the use case template wrt. Eva's
       version

Summary of Resolutions

    1. [39]next call 4 september, same time.


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