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[1]W3C
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DPVCG
23 July 2018
[2]IRC log
[2] https://www.w3.org/2018/07/23-dpvcg-irc
Attendees
Present
Axel Polleres, Bert Bos, Eva Schlehahn, Harshvardhan J.
Pandit, Iliana Petrova, Michael Markevich, Ramisa Hamed,
Simon Steyskal, Uros Milosevic, Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel
Regrets
Chair
Axel
Scribe
simonstey
Contents
* [3]Meeting Minutes
1. [4]introduction
2. [5]introductions
3. [6]workshop recap
4. [7]next steps
* [8]Summary of Action Items
* [9]Summary of Resolutions
Meeting Minutes
<victor> I would rather not doing. It is 01.10 in Melbourne and
I am too tired, I would make many mistakes
introduction
AxelPollleres: agenda is in the email I sent
… please go on the website of the cg, there you find links to
additional tools
Bert: at the bottom you find the links
… using IRC is quite handy to use for meetings
<AxelPollleres> IRC server is irc.w3.org
Bert: you don't need a dedicated IRC client, just use
irc.w3.org
… we also use wiki
<harsh> Wiki link: [10]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/
Main_Page
[10] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Main_Page
Bert: you can log in with your w3c credentials
… there's also an issue tracker with irc integration, we can
use
… we have a public mailing list, as well as few others
<AxelPollleres> simonstey: webex credentials sent on public
mailinglist may be a security issue for bots.
<AxelPollleres> bert: have to think about what we do for a
regular webex call.
AxelPollleres: for those who are new to the w3c infrastructure,
just ask
AxelPollleres: if we produce documents on top of just the wiki,
I would suggest we do that on github
<AxelPollleres> proposed: use github for versioning documents?
+1
<UrosMilosevic> +1
<harsh> +1 use Github
<AxelPollleres> +1
<Bert> +1
in w3c space?
<Ramisa> +1
Bert: w3c space is technically possible, but usually it's for
WGs only
victor: wiki is easier to comprehend/use
Action: Bert clarify which github space we can use W3C's github
space or if we need something else
Bert: I can ask if we can have a place at w3c's github
introductions
Action: Bert clarify which github space we can use W3C's github
space or if we need something else
<trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: data field(s) missing from
result. Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what
happened.
AxelPollleres: Vienna University of Economics & Business,
co-chaired SPARQL WG in the past, also part of an EU project
called SPECIAL
<AxelPollleres> +?
UrosMilosevic: Semantic Technology Architect at TenForce,
Belgium service provider
… also involved in the SPECIAL project
victor: works for UPM, research visit @ melbourne, was part of
ODRL WG, running european project on legal informatics
harsh: PhD @ Trinity, GDPR compliance from the angle of
provenance
<AxelPollleres> Simonstey: also Vienna university & Business,
PhD student, involved in SHACL and ORDL WGs, working also in
JSON-LD wg, also working at Siemens Austria
Ramisa: PhD @ trinity, privacy preserving personalization, also
participated in privacy workshop
Bert: working on several w3c working groups in the past, also
involved in the SPECIAL project
Eva: legal expert working on data protection related research
projects
… advising on how to build software that is compliant with GDPR
AxelPollleres: if you log into the wiki
<AxelPollleres> [11]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/
[11] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/
<AxelPollleres> [12]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/
User:Apollere2
[12] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/User:Apollere2
AxelPollleres: it's asking you for a login, and there you can
add some personal information
Action: all to edit their user profile on wiki
<trackbot> Error finding 'all'. You can review and register
nicknames at <[13]http://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/
users>.
[13] http://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users>.
AxelPollleres: please everybody add some personal information
about yourself
[14]https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/User:Apollere2
[14] https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/User:Apollere2
workshop recap
AxelPollleres: I was also not there in person
<Bert> [15]Report of the workshop on Data Privacy Controls and
Vocabularies
[15] https://www.w3.org/2018/vocabws/report.html
Bert: workshop organized by SPECIAL project and w3c in April
… what technologies exist for privacy
… see what needs to be standardized and what not
… determine priorities for next steps
… first session was about things like how to express
trust/access rights; identifiers; ODRL
… another session was about use cases in industry
… last session was about academic research
… modelling time, what about policies that change over time
… scientific datasets
… risks of collecting/combining/linking data
… we came up with 8 particular tasks
… ranked according to priority
<AxelPollleres> GDPR terms...should also be part of a
vocabulary,
Bert: number 1 point was defining a privacy vocabulary
<AxelPollleres> taxonomy of purposes, taxonomy of perosnal
data, log data, linkage
<AxelPollleres> human behaviour.
Taxonomy of regulatory privacy terms (including all GDPR
terms). Taxonomy for personal data. Taxonomy of purposes.
Taxonomy of disclosure. Metadata related to the details of
anonymisation. Log vocabulary. Taxonomy of linkage operations.
Taxonomies of human behavior.
<Eva_S__ULD_> (webEx is having network problems, trying to
re-connect)
michael_markevich: doing security & privacy @ Opera software
… just became AC rep for Opera
… as we deal with privacy at large scale, we are def.
interested in contributing to this cg
AxelPollleres: what we want as deliverables of that CG, is at
least a list of requirements
… and use cases for such vocabularies
… the agenda we have drafted so far, can be found on the
starting page of the cg
… we are still in the consolidating phase of the group
… we wanted to "officially" start in August at the mydata
conference
… were we'll have our first f2f meeting, there might be a
possibility for another f2f meeting in october
… at mydata there's a session on (??)
… anyone planning to join those conferences?
<Ramisa> maybe
<AxelPollleres> Axel: anybody planning to join Mydata?
<AxelPollleres> ... or BDVA?
AxelPollleres: we can start with using the wiki to collect some
starting points
… any comments welcome
AxelPollleres: if you have certain use cases, please create a
wiki page for those and send a link to the list
<harsh> Create section for Use-cases on Wiki ?
AxelPollleres: anybody volunteering for creating a draft
structure for use cases we can use?
… for vocabularies, maybe victor you could start adding some
bits and pieces for ODRL?
victor: yes!
Action: draft a page afor ORDL
<trackbot> Error finding 'draft'. You can review and register
nicknames at <[16]http://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/
users>.
[16] http://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users>.
<harsh> GDPRtEXT vocabulary
Action: harsh to draft a page about GDPRtext
<trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: data field(s) missing from
result. Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what
happened.
Action: Michael to draft something about Opera use case(s)
<trackbot> 'Michael' is an ambiguous username. Please try a
different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g.,
mmarkevich, mpetyx).
<victor> There was a very old list of vocabularies
<victor> [17]https://www.w3.org/Policy/pling/wiki/
PolicyLangReview
[17] https://www.w3.org/Policy/pling/wiki/PolicyLangReview
victor: very very old review of policy languages that might be
of interest
Action: Bert to add some overview of SPECIAL use case(s)
<trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: data field(s) missing from
result. Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what
happened.
<victor> (very very old = 10 years)
Action: Axel to add some more starting point vocabulary stubs
<trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: data field(s) missing from
result. Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what
happened.
AxelPollleres: if you work on some project, please tell us
about potentially relevant use cases
next steps
<Eva_S__ULD_> (sorry for not being able to say anthing atm, it
seems WebEx does not like my PC today :( )
AxelPollleres: next time we want to discuss our inputs
<Eva_S__ULD_> (on-and-off connection all the time)
<victor> (neutral)
<harsh> poll for regular call slot sounds good
<Eva_S__ULD_> Yes a poll would be great
AxelPollleres: we have to think about how to get more people on
board
… more people from industry would be nice, please advertise!
<victor> +1
<Bert> +1
<AxelPollleres> next call in two weeks?
<harsh> +!
AxelPollleres: we should have at least one more call before
mydata
<Ramisa> +1
<AxelPollleres> +1
<Eva_S__ULD_> +1
AxelPollleres: in 2 weeks?
+1
... 6.8 16:00 CEST?
<AxelPollleres> proposed: next call 6 august 16:00 CEST
<AxelPollleres> +1
+1
<harsh> +1
<Ramisa> 6th is holiday in Ireland
<Ramisa> +1
<victor> +1
<harsh> +1 7 TUE
<AxelPollleres> Would Tuesday 7 August 16:00 work better?
AxelPollleres: what about tuesday then?
<AxelPollleres> +1
Resolved: next call Tuesday 7 August 16:00 CEST
<harsh> Announce on email list?
<victor> thanks! have a nice day!
<AxelPollleres> any further questions?
AxelPollleres: please announce your contributions to the wiki
to the mailing list
<Ramisa> Thanks.
<harsh> Thanks.
<Eva_S__ULD_> Noted the date/time for the next call and hoping
that WebEx works then
<AxelPollleres> rrsagent make minutes public
<AxelPollleres> thanks!
<AxelPollleres> Bert, I guess the ra minutes need a while to
become visible?
<Bert> Yes, can take a minute or so.
<Eva_S__ULD_> thanks everyone, bye
<AxelPollleres> thanks!@
Summary of Action Items
1. [18]Bert clarify which github space we can use W3C's github
space or if we need something else
2. [19]Bert clarify which github space we can use W3C's github
space or if we need something else
3. [20]all to edit their user profile on wiki
4. [21]draft a page afor ORDL
5. [22]harsh to draft a page about GDPRtext
6. [23]Michael to draft something about Opera use case(s)
7. [24]Bert to add some overview of SPECIAL use case(s)
8. [25]Axel to add some more starting point vocabulary stubs
Summary of Resolutions
1. [26]next call Tuesday 7 August 16:00 CEST
Minutes formatted by Bert Bos's [27]scribe.perl version 2.41
(2018/03/23 13:13:49), a reimplementation of David Booth's
[28]scribe.perl. See [29]CVS log.
[27] https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe2/scribedoc.html
[28] https://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
[29] https://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe2/
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