- From: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com>
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 12:17:54 -0400
- To: Rich Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com>
- Cc: Alexander Surkov <asurkov@mozilla.com>, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>, Bogdan Brinza <bbrinza@microsoft.com>, Tzviya Siegman <tsiegman@wiley.com>, "DPUB-ARIA (public-dpub-aria@w3.org)" <public-dpub-aria@w3.org>
But my understanding is that pullquotes are purely decorative and ATs shouldn't double present them. Native host language semantics won't necessarily buy us that, right? --joanie On 10/27/2016 12:05 PM, Rich Schwerdtfeger wrote: > Not mapped only means that the element is not mapped. Hidden should > apply to the element and its subtree unless a descendant is overridden > by the element. So, I think a better solution would be to not to expose > the role at all and allow it to default to the native host language > semantics. In this case it does not matter whether it has focus or not. > > In fact, I think it would be best to state that in the mapping spec. > that defines what it means to not be mapped. We should say that it > defaults to the native host language semantics and the ARIA role is not > exposed. > > Would this not be a better approach? > > > > Rich Schwerdtfeger > > > > >> On Oct 27, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Alexander Surkov <asurkov@mozilla.com >> <mailto:asurkov@mozilla.com>> wrote: >> >> Thinking more, aria-hidden='true' might be not that bad, even with its >> ambiguity of the usage and implementations in the browsers. If you say >> 'not mapped', then I think you should say if this is applied to >> elements from its subtree, also you may need to clarify the edge >> cases, for example, what happens, if the focus goes into 'pullquote' >> element. >> >> Having said I would probably prefer if that was the author's >> responsibility to hide the element from AT, either by moving it >> offscreen or putting aria-hidden='true' on it. >> >> Also I don't quire understand why would we need to have 'pullquote' >> role in the first place. If pullquote doesn't have semantics, then it >> doesn't seem worthwhile to have ARIA role for it. >> >> Thanks. >> Alexander. >> >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Rich Schwerdtfeger >> <richschwer@gmail.com <mailto:richschwer@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Based on this discussion: >>> >>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpub-aria/2016Oct/0029.html >>> >>> I want to change the dpub-aam mapping to not mapped for all >>> platforms. That >>> includes (not xml-roles values for linux and Windows IA2 mappings). >>> It means >>> that the Mac mapping would go form group to not mapped. >>> >>> Any disagreement? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Rich >>> >>> Rich Schwerdtfeger >>> >>> >>> >>> >
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