Re: DPUB ARIA module

Michael,

DPUB ARIA task force is done working on the FPWD release. So, you can grab
it now. It is just a matter of PF signing off at this point.

Rich


Rich Schwerdtfeger



From: Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Cc: Tzviya Siegman <tsiegman@wiley.com>, Richard
            Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, W3C PF - DPUB Joint Task Force
            <public-dpub-aria@w3.org>
Date: 06/24/2015 09:56 AM
Subject: Re: DPUB ARIA module



On the Process point - my view is that while PF is the sole publisher
(largely for bureaucratic reasons of the structure of the DPub IG
charter), because the document is so closely developed with the DPub IG,
it would be really stinky for the PFWG to publish something that the
DPub IG did not support. We should have assurance that the DPub group
supports it. Whatever process you want to use to obtain a credible
assurance of that support is fine. A formal resolution is the most clear
version of that, even if W3C Process doesn't care about it. If the
leadership of the IG simply wants to assert that there is support and we
won't  receive retroactive objections, I guess we can go with that.

On "hear from Michael that we're ready for a PFWG CfC", is there
something open waiting on me? I don't remember anything coming to my
attention, I was simply waiting for the document to be turned over to me
to start publication prep.

Michael

On 24/06/2015 10:40 AM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Thanks, Ivan. Your response on this thread suffices on behalf of the IG,
> imo.
>
> So, as soon as I hear from Michael that we're ready for a PFWG CfC, I'll
> put that out.
>
> Janina
>
> Ivan Herman writes:
>> Janina, others,
>>
>> my apologies for putting my administrative hat on:-) Maybe Michael
should also chime in if I am mistaken somewhere.
>>
>> Formally speaking, the DPUB ARIA Module document is a publication of the
PF Working Group, as the status section clearly says. The status makes no
mention of the DPUB IG, and that is actually the right thing because the
current DPUB IG (as an Interest Group) is not chartered to publish a
Recommendation. This also means that, again by the process, a formal
RESOLUTION for FPWD publication should come from the PF WG only, there is
no need for such an administrative step on the DPUB IG side.
>>
>> Of course, this is a joined task force, and there should be an agreement
on both sides to go ahead. As Tzviya said, this has already been discussed
by the DPUB IG, and the IG's approval is on record. So… while of course we
can go through the admin step if you really feel that it is necessary on
the PF side, it is certainly not necessary per W3C process (and, I must
admit, I prefer to reduce the admin load wherever possible). I think that
if the PF WG can formally vote for the resolution as quickly as possible,
we can get the admin done through Judy (as domain lead) and we can go on
with the FPWD publication next week.
>>
>> My apologies again for the formalities…
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ivan
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 24 Jun 2015, at 03:01 , Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tzviya:
>>>
>>> Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken writes:
>>>> Thanks, Rich
>>>>
>>>> In the DPUB meeting this week, we did not put forward a formal
resolution, but we did discuss the document [1]. If it is necessary, we can
formally resolve over email.
>>>
>>> I think it would be good to log a formal RESOLUTION. Email is certainly
>>> OK, as long as there's a "decision" email at the end of the thread that
>>> can be pointed to.
>>>
>>> It's my bad for not bringing this up last week. I have no excuse, I
>>> simply forgot momentarilly that we're a joint TF, so technically need
>>> the approval of both sponsoring groups, D-Pub_IG and PF_WG for the FPWD
>>> request that will be forwarded to our W3C Domain Leads.
>>>
>>> I believe we can still publish next week.
>>>
>>> Rich: Thanks for reminding me that we did log a RESOLUTION during the
>>> D-Pub telecon last week. That was also my muddle today. Can I blame it
>>> on the heat? <grin>
>>>
>>> Janina
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2015/06/22-dpub-minutes.html#item02

>>>>
>>>> Tzviya Siegman
>>>> Digital Book Standards & Capabilities Lead
>>>> Wiley
>>>> 201-748-6884
>>>> tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>
>>>>
>>>> From: Richard Schwerdtfeger [mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:34 PM
>>>> To: Janina Sajka
>>>> Cc: DPUB-ARIA (public-dpub-aria@w3.org); Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken
>>>> Subject: Re: DPUB ARIA module
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Janina,
>>>>
>>>> The DPUB Accessibilty task force did formally resolve to take it to
FPWD:
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2015/06/18-dpub-aria-minutes.html
>>>>
>>>> Here is the text:
>>>> RESOLUTION: put this to FPWD
>>>>
>>>> Were you referring to the ARIA task force? Both calls are held on
Thursdays. I think the main issues for the ARIA task force were addressed
with the dpub- vocab preamble.
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rich Schwerdtfeger
>>>>
>>>> [cid:image001.gif@01D0ADB2.14028DC0]Janina Sajka ---06/23/2015
11:27:36 AM---Thanks Tzviya, and congratulations D-Pub! Because this is to
be a FPWD, it would be helpful to have
>>>>
>>>> From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>>
>>>> To: "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com<
mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>>
>>>> Cc: "DPUB-ARIA (public-dpub-aria@w3.org<mailto:public-dpub-aria@w3.org
>)" <public-dpub-aria@w3.org<mailto:public-dpub-aria@w3.org>>
>>>> Date: 06/23/2015 11:27 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: DPUB ARIA module
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Tzviya, and congratulations D-Pub!
>>>>
>>>> Because this is to be a FPWD, it would be helpful to have a formal
RESOLUTION: logged requesting this
>>>> FPWD. Perhaps we can do that on a Thursday call?
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, it would be good to have a RESOLUTION in support from the
>>>> D-Pub IG.
>>>>
>>>> Janina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken writes:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> The draft of Digital Publishing WAI-ARIA Module [1] is ready for a
stable URL so that we can move forward with a CfC to DPUB and PF.
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael, I believe this is something that you manage?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tzviya
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html

>>>>>
>>>>> Tzviya Siegman
>>>>> Digital Book Standards & Capabilities Lead
>>>>> Wiley
>>>>> 201-748-6884
>>>>> tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200
>>>> sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net

>>>> Email: janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>
>>>>
>>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org

>>>>
>>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative
(WAI)
>>>> Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf

>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Janina Sajka,   Phone:   +1.443.300.2200
>>>          sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net

>>>       Email:   janina@rednote.net
>>>
>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:   http://a11y.org

>>>
>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>>> Chair,   Protocols & Formats   http://www.w3.org/wai/pf

>>>
>>>
>>
>> ----
>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/

>> mobile: +31-641044153
>> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704

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