- From: <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:23:33 +0700
- To: "Gavin Treadgold" <gt@kestrel.co.nz>
- Cc: "Ivan Herman" <ivan@w3.org>, "W3C Disaster Management Ontology List" <public-disaster-management-ont@w3.org>, "W3C System" <sysreq@w3.org>, "Fumihiro Kato" <fumi@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <c09b00eb0706200323x2bc86bdap7761f68dfa4c762d@mail.gmail.com>
great stuff, at least we know it was just a queue issue thanks pdm On 6/20/07, Gavin Treadgold <gt@kestrel.co.nz> wrote: > > > Yep - I replied to William's direct reply to me. I have noticed that > there has been some leapfrogging of replies. > > Direct message received 19 JUN 2110 UTC > List message received 20 JUN 0539 UTC > > Cheers Gav > > On 20/06/2007, at 21:27, paola.dimaio@gmail.com wrote: > > > thanks folks, not important per se, just checking that we have our > > settings right > > > > if it was a spam filter issue, then Gavin would have received the > > message directly because william replied both to the list and to > > Gav in cc, Gav can you confirm that please > > > > if that so, how did the message get unblocked from the spam filter > > just now? > > did someone mechanically unspammed it, or does the system processes > > messages in batches? > > > > at least we know how much to rely on the list for real time for > > future correspondence > > > > Thanks a lot for your prompt support > > P > > > > On 6/20/07, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote: Paola, > > > > I forward your questions to our system people who may know the answer. > > > > However, the unfortunate fact is that, time to time, our spam filters > > are absolutely overloaded which does create, sometimes, long delays. > > (You should realize that we have tons of mailing lists and you do not > > even want to know the number of spams that are filtered out every > > days. > > A real disaster:-) > > > > Ivan > > > > paola.dimaio@gmail.com wrote: > > > HI Ivan > > > cc public list > > > > > > Just checking the dynamics of this mailing list > > > > > > william posted this message on june 20, 3.41 am , which si 12 > > hours ago > > > Gavin replied 8 hours ago > > > but I received it only 2 hours ago in my inbox > > > > > > could you please let me know what kind of email group settings could > > > prevent this (long) gaps > > > in the communication? are there any tricks that Iwe should know of? > > > thanks > > > > > > Paola > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: *William Waites* <ww@groovy.net <mailto:ww@groovy.net >> > > > Date: Jun 20, 2007 3:41 AM > > > Subject: Re: automagic notifications and coordination... > > > To: Gavin Treadgold <gt@kestrel.co.nz <mailto: gt@kestrel.co.nz>> > > > Cc: W3C Disaster Management Ontology List > > > <public-disaster-management-ont@w3.org > > > <mailto: public-disaster-management-ont@w3.org>> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 11:09:33PM +1200, Gavin Treadgold wrote: > > >> > > >> E.g. within the plan may be a list of people that need to be > > notified > > >> if a certain event occurs. Wouldn't it be fantastic if the > > simple act > > >> of editing the plan dynamically modified the actual group within > > the > > >> messaging module as soon as the change is submitted (and > > approved if > > >> required). And a link is created automatically next to the list in > > >> the plan that takes the user directly to the form to send out an > > >> alert using the messaging module. > > > > > > Nifty indeed, however in practical scenarios it is important to > > address > > > infrastructure that would normally be used for this sort of thing > > that > > > may not be available. > > > > > > As a case in point, in Southern Mississippi and Louisiana, in the > > wake > > > of Hurricane Katrina, it was a good month and a half or two months > > > before the cellular networks were functioning with any semblance of > > > normalcy and even then only in some areas. Notifications by SMS or > > > telephone call would have been impossible. All communications in the > > > region for the initial period coordinated with the assistance of the > > > Amateur Radio Service (excepting perhaps the US Navy and National > > Guard > > > who have their own UHF/VHF facilities). I believe that, at the > > > beginning at least, it was not well known by the various authorities > > > that the Amateur Radio Service *exists* to provide communications > > > support in emergency scenarios where the normal infrastructure is > > > non-existant or destroyed. > > > > > > Simply a caution about depending too much upon infrastructure > > that may > > > disappear the moment it is needed... > > > > > > Another anectode from that time concerns the FEMA web site that was > > > intended to allow survivours to claim their benefit disbursement > > from > > > the Federal Government (around $2k IIRC). Putting aside the red tape > > > associated with, "I have no ID, it was all washed away", there was a > > > very serious problem: the web site was constructed using proprietary > > > technology (in this case Microsoft's Active-X extensions). Why > > does this > > > matter? Well the dozens or hundreds of donated computers which many > > > volunteers attempted to set up for the survivours to use were > > useless > > > for this purpose because (1) the web site did not work with Linux > > and > > > (2) most of the computers were too old to run anything recent > > enough to > > > support the extensions required by FEMA's web site. This is one > > of the > > > clearest examples that I know of about proprietary and encumbered > > software > > > contributing directly to the misery and despair of very many people. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > -w > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Paola Di Maio ***** > > > School of Information Technology > > > Mae Fah Luang University > > > Chiang Rai - Thailand > > > ********************************************* > > > > -- > > > > Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead > > URL: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > > PGP Key: http://www.cwi.nl/%7Eivan/AboutMe/pgpkey.html > > FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Paola Di Maio ***** > > School of Information Technology > > Mae Fah Luang University > > Chiang Rai - Thailand > > ********************************************* > > > -- Paola Di Maio ***** School of Information Technology Mae Fah Luang University Chiang Rai - Thailand *********************************************
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