Re: [Moderator Action] [dpub] 20160822 agenda

Boris – I agree that those are good use cases for either a single publication or a collection of them.  Just remember to preface such statements with something along the lines of  – “assuming that the user has been granted the rights to do so”.

Leonard

From: Boris Anthony <boris@rebus.foundation>
Date: Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 11:16 AM
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, "DPUB mailing list (public-digipub-ig@w3.org)" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Subject: Re: [Moderator Action] [dpub] 20160822 agenda
Resent-From: <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Resent-Date: Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 11:17 AM

Hello

Rereading the whole document today and reconsidering the "UC" I added and Ivan's previous comments, I realise that these scenarios I wrote are not really a fit for this document.

The only PWP "requirement" I can think of related to collecting (and "living with" PWP) is the ability of users, via user's systems (reader, library), to add and access custom (even arbitrary) metadata, both explicit stuff like perhaps a book review a user wants to insert to their copy, or a note on provenance ("Ivan gave me this book in Lisbon at 2016 TPAC"), or implicit things like user activities (time stamp and lat/lon at start of reading session, time stamp and lat/lon at of end reading session, etc). Yes these things are managed by reader and library apps/services/platforms but there should be a way to write them into the PWP as well for preservation, archival.

So, I propose to remove all the UC I added for Collection.
And we somewhere insert one about custom/informal/arbitrary/ad-hoc metadata and content addition (by user).



B.






On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org<mailto:ivan@w3.org>> wrote:
Boris,

thanks!

what I do not see in the text is what kinds of requirements those use cases impose on a PWP in general. What features should be present in a PWP in order to achieve those use cases? Things like (I am making up as I write these lines) the types of metadata a PWP must make available to be able to store and organize the PWP-s as part of a collection, what kind of search facilities should be made available (beyond what a google type search would do) to help these collections, etc.

Cheers

Ivan


On 19 Aug 2016, at 16:46, Boris Anthony <boris@rebus.foundation<mailto:boris@rebus.foundation>> wrote:

Hi all,
Precision on [4]

I've been working on the whole Collections section [5] (and would love feedback)
[5] http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pwp-ucr/#collections


Thanks!
B.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken <tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>> wrote:

Hi DPUB,



Below is the draft agenda for next week's IG concall, to be held at the usual time and day [0].



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Thank you to the use case authors who have been extremely productive in the last 2 weeks.


UCR review – whatever updates are
Cancel session on 29 Aug? 5 Aug?
Publishing timeline for UCR





Agenda:

* Approve minutes [2]

* Recent updates to PWP-UCR: Read these before the meeting so that we can have a discussion! If you work on a section, please circulate the link.

**Horizontals [3] (@Deborah, Ivan)

**Forthcoming Sharing, Distribution, and Retail section (@BillK, Laurent)

**Forthcoming State/Locators section (@Ben, Leonard)

** Forthcoming Archiving section (@Nicholas T, Tim, Ayla)

**Accessibility Clean up (@Charles, Deborah)

**Misc/Other (@Shane)

**Collection of Content into PWPs [4] (@Boris)

*PWP-UCR editing, timeline, publication schedule

*Meeting cancelled on 29 August and 5 September



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[4] http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pwp-ucr/#collection-of-content-into-pwps






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