Re: [dpub] 20160815 agenda

Regrets, conflicting meeting

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
wrote:

> I can od that.
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> *From: *Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
> *Date: *Monday, August 15, 2016 at 10:11 AM
> *To: *Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
> *Cc: *Tzviya Siegman <tsiegman@wiley.com>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <
> public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [dpub] 20160815 agenda
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> On 15 Aug 2016, at 15:39, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com> wrote:
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> Unfortunately, I have a conflicting meeting.
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> BUT I still believe (as I wrote a few weeks back) that some of the word
> choices in the PWP-UCR are too stringent – shoulds vs musts in a number of
> locations.  Also, there is a LOT of blending between where the publication
> ends and the UA/RS begins – and I find it muddies the waters a bit much as
> we start to move from use cases to concrete solutions.
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> Should I re-raise these issues individuals on email?  In a meeting?  Other?
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> (I can use something like hypothesi.is
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>  to comment on the page if you want…)
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> Unfortunately, there is no hypotes.is
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> installed on github:-( (that is not under our control).
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> The closest (and probably the best) would be to make some specific edits
> in a separate branch and create a pull request. We can then discuss the
> specific changes via github; if you look at:
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> https://github.com/w3c/dpub-pwp-ucr/pull/44/files
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> I have made a comment on the file edited by Charles, which can be
> discussed further and, afaik, the file can also be edited before being
> merged.
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> In any case, specific edits make things much faster to evolve…
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> Thanks
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> Ivan
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> Leonard
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> *From: *"Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com>
> *Date: *Friday, August 12, 2016 at 9:25 AM
> *To: *"DPUB mailing list (public-digipub-ig@w3.org)" <
> public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
> *Subject: *[dpub] 20160815 agenda
> *Resent-From: *<public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
> *Resent-Date: *Friday, August 12, 2016 at 9:26 AM
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> Hi DPUB,
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> Below is the draft agenda for next week's IG concall, to be held at the
> usual time and day [0].
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> Please let us know if you are able to scribe. Please join the call via
> WebEx [1] and join IRC [13] for live chat & minutes (IRC channel #dpub).
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> Thank you to the use case authors who have been extremely productive in
> the last 2 weeks.
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> Agenda:
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> * Approve minutes [2]
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> * Recent updates to PWP-UCR: *Read these before the meeting so that we
> can have a discussion!*
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> **Intro [3]
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> **Accessibility/Braille Use Case [4]
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> ** CSS Section removed and inserted into Fundamentals [5]
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> ** State and Locators [6]
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> * Update from other Use Case writers (Distribution/Retail, Archiving,
> Accessibility, and Other)
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> * TPAC Agenda overview [7]
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> [0] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?
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> [1] http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/WebEx
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> [2] https://www.w3.org/2016/08/08-dpub-minutes.html
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> [3] http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pwp-ucr/#introduction
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> [4] http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pwp-ucr/#braille
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> [5] http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pwp-ucr/#it-should-be-possible-to-see-the-
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> [7] https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Sep_2016_F2F_Logistics_and_Details
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