Re: Setting the record straight on PLOS

Understood. Thanks for pointing that out.

Ivan

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> On 11 Jun 2015, at 21:01, Bill Kasdorf <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com> wrote:
> 
> I feel obligated to point out that you are looking at an old article from PLOS. If you look at a recent one you will see an entirely different picture. (Full disclosure: Apex took over the production of PLOS a few months ago.)
> 
> You shouldn't see this problem anymore.
> 
> All equations are in MathML and also have images to accompany them. Including those converted from LaTex.
> 
> All tables are in HTML, though PLOS doesn't currently render the HTML tables online.
> 
> The XML generates the PDF, including the equations and tables. The equation and table alternative images are automated derivatives of the PDF layout.
> 
> (All this from my colleague Greg Suprock, Apex's Head of Solutions Architecture. Really smart guy. Some of you may know him. Will not stand for crap.)
> 
> So please don't judge PLOS by that old example.
> 
> --Bill K
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Berjon [mailto:robin@w3.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:19 AM
> To: Dave Cramer; Ivan Herman
> Cc: Bill Kasdorf; Tzviya Siegman; W3C Digital Publishing IG
> Subject: Re: use case: page based scholarly reference?
> 
>> On 11/06/2015 15:26 , Dave Cramer wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:41 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org 
>> <mailto:ivan@w3.org>> wrote:
>>    P.S. I have to say that PLOS is not a really good example for
>>    quality. I was shocked to see that, on [2], all the numbers in the
>>    text are… images! It looks horrible in my browser, it is bad in so
>>    many ways… Sigh...
>> 
>> Just wow! Here's how they mark up the number "1.8 million":
>> 
>>  <span class="inline-formula"><img
>> src="article/asset?id=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0115253.e003.PNG"
>> class="inline-graphic"></span> million
>> 
>> Human-readable AND accessible. Nice job!*
> 
> "Just wow!" was pretty much my reaction too, at least if you filter out the parts that one wouldn't post to a public mailing list.
> 
>> Is this an automated MathML to image conversion used inappropriately?
> 
> But how would you end up with MathML to markup just the one number in the first place? Broken LaTeX conversion? Note that not *every* number is imaged (but quite a few are).
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> Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ - @robinberjon

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