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Re: use case: page based scholarly reference?

From: Liam R. E. Quin <liam@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:30:18 -0400
Message-ID: <1433964618.8427.186.camel@w3.org>
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Cc: Tzviya Siegman <tsiegman@wiley.com>, Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com>, Bill Kasdorf <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 14:02 +0200, Ivan Herman wrote:
> Based on the scholarly publishing topic of the last telco, I am 
> wondering how to formalize a requirement and under which category 
> does it belong…
> 
> In scholarly publishing precise (scholarly) reference is a must. 
> This, as of today, usually includes references to page numbers. This 
> can take specific formats,

One way this is handled with digital editions today is to have an 
empty element for page breaks (or to use that element to contain 
foliation and other page apparatus such as running headers). E.g. TEI 
uses pb for a page break.

Then the page breaks are shown e.g. with a discrete symbol in the text 
or in the margin.

This same problem exists in printed critical editions of texts and 
transcriptions of manuscripts, of course.

Liam

>  
> - In some areas and under the reference format required by some 
> journals, a reference to an article includes a page number. E.g.,
> 
>         A. Evans, et al., “3D graphics on the web: A survey,” 
> Computers & Graphics, vol. 41, pp. 43–61, Jun. 2014.
> 
> 
> - In humanities, when quoting from a book, a reference (often in a 
> footnote) includes a page number:
> 
>         D. Heater: World Citizenship and Government. Macmillan 
> Press, London, 1996. 12-13.
> 
> One of the reasons, I guess, why publisher still offer a PDF format 
> for their downloads is, I guess, because the page numbers become 
> fixed relative to a journal or a proceedings, even if these latter 
> practically never hit anyone's bookshelf.
> 
> This is so deeply structured in scholarly references, that fully 
> online publisher have to cheat with this. Eg, PeerJ has the 
> article[1]; one can download, from the site, a BiBTeX reference for 
> the paper, to be used by others, and this is of the form (I removed 
> details):
> 
> @article{10.7717/peerj-cs.1,
>  title = {Achieving ...},
>  author = {Starr, Joan and ...},
>  year = {2015},
>  month = {5},
>  volume = {1},
>  pages = {e1},
>  journal = {PeerJ Computer Science},
>  issn = {2376-5992},
>  url = {https://dx.doi.org/10.7717/peerj-cs.1},
>  doi = {10.7717/peerj-cs.1}
> }
> 
> Note the phony 'e1' page identification.
> 
> I am not sure what this translates into in a requirement for the 
> identification part, namely that 'reasonable' units within the 
> publication should have an easily identifiable URL, or URL structure 
> (note that the examples above actually define ranges and not only 
> one page). This may be a page but that is a fluid notion in this 
> case, that may not be appropriate for scholarly purposes. But I am a 
> bit uncertain how to formulate it before putting it into the use 
> case directory…
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> Ivan
> 
> 
> 
> [1] https://dx.doi.org/10.7717/peerj-cs.1
> 
> 
> 
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