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Re: [Minutes] 2015-01-26 Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference

From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:46:40 +0100
Message-ID: <54C91270.9060605@w3.org>
To: Julie Morris <julie@bisg.org>, Shinyu Murakami <murakami@vivliostyle.com>
CC: W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Yes I noticed and therfore I had added your name this morning in the 
minutes.

thierry

On 28/01/2015 16:17, Julie Morris wrote:
> I was also present.
>
> Thanks,
> Julie
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Shinyu Murakami
> <murakami@vivliostyle.com <mailto:murakami@vivliostyle.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Thierry,
>
>     Thanks for the minutes.
>     I (Shinyu Murakami, Vivliostyle Inc.) was present at 2015-01-26 and
>     2015-01-12 telecons.
>     Could you add me please?
>
>     --
>     Shinyu Murakami (村上 真雄)
>     CEO & Founder, Vivliostyle Inc.
>     http://vivliostyle.com
>     murakami@vivliostyle.com <mailto:murakami@vivliostyle.com>
>
>
>     Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org <mailto:tmichel@w3.org>> wrote on
>     2015/01/27 2:07:44
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Hi all,
>      >
>      > The minutes of the Digital Publishing Interest Group
>     Teleconference dated 2015-01-26 are now available at
>      >
>      > http://www.w3.org/2015/01/26-dpub-minutes.html
>      >
>      > These public minutes are also linked from the dpub wiki
>      > http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Meetings
>      >
>      > Also find these minutes in a text version following, for your
>     convenience.
>      >
>      > Best,
>      >
>      > Thierry Michel
>      >
>      > ---------------------------------------------------------
>      >
>      >     [1]W3C
>      >
>      >        [1] http://www.w3.org/
>      >
>      >              Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
>      >
>      > 26 Jan 2015
>      >
>      >     See also: [2]IRC log
>      >
>      >        [2] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/26-dpub-irc
>      >
>      > Attendees
>      >
>      >     Present
>      >            Ben de Meester (bjdmeest), Markus Gylling (Markus),
>      >            Tzviya Siegman (tzviya),Thierry Michel (tmichel),
>      >            Kawakubo (kwkbtr), Karen Myers (Karen_Myers), Rob
>      >            Sanderson (azaroth), Dave Cramer (dauwhe),  Liam Quin
>      >            (Liam), Paul Belfanti (pbelfanti), Charles LaPierre
>      >            (clapierre), Alan Stearns (Stearns),  Deborah Kaplan
>      >            (dkaplan3), David Stroup, Manuel Rego Casasnovas (rego),
>      >            Peter Linss (plinss) , Mike Miller (MikeMiller), Heather
>      >            Flanagan (HeatherF), mihnea, iank.
>      >
>      >     Regrets
>      >            Phil, Ivan, Luc, Ayla
>      >
>      >     Chair
>      >            Tzviya
>      >
>      >     Scribe
>      >            Markus
>      >
>      > Contents
>      >
>      >       * [3]Topics
>      >           1. [4]approval of minutes from last week
>      >           2. [5]use cases for Houdini
>      >           3. [6]packaging on the web document
>      >       * [7]Summary of Action Items
>      >       __________________________________________________________
>      >
>      >     <trackbot> Date: 26 January 2015
>      >
>      >     <HeatherF> Ha! Figured out my first zakim instruction!
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> agenda
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> * Approval of last week's minutes [1]
>      >
>      >        [1] http://www.w3.org/
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> * Use Cases for Houdini (Brady and Markus)
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> * Introduce and review Packaging on the Web [2]
>      >
>      >        [2] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/26-dpub-irc
>      >
>      >     <mgylling> scribe: mgylling
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> minutes
>      >     [8]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/05-dpub-minutes.html
>      >
>      >        [8] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/05-dpub-minutes.html
>      >
>      > approval of minutes from last week
>      >
>      >     Tzviya: minutes are approved
>      >
>      >     <liza> YEAH MINUTES!!!
>      >
>      >     <pkra1> those weren't last week's minutes?
>      >
>      >     <murakami> [9]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/12-dpub-minutes.html
>      >
>      >        [9] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/12-dpub-minutes.html
>      >
>      >     <Vlad> Sorry, I am on the IRC only today
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> Use Cases for Houdini (Brady and Markus)
>      >
>      > use cases for Houdini
>      >
>      >     <dauwhe> [10]https://wiki.css-houdini.org/explaining-css-layout
>      >
>      >       [10] https://wiki.css-houdini.org/explaining-css-layout
>      >
>      >     Tzviya: Brady and Markus has been working on these
>      >
>      >     <pbelfanti> *Paul waves back to Karen :)
>      >
>      >     Brady: the update is I am typing right now… Markus did contact
>      >     me and mention that we need to have these ready
>      >
>      >     <david_stroup> I'm 585.217
>      >
>      >     … I am updating some of the requirements, adding a few more
>      >
>      >     … and we need to pull out those relating to personalization
>      >
>      >     … working on pending action items as well
>      >
>      >     … still hasnt really been looked at by other implementors as
>      >     far as I know, Markus have you contacted anyone?
>      >
>      >     … I am concerned, we should vet it before exposing to CSSWG
>      >
>      >     Tzviya: there are some RS and browser that I could expose this
>      >     to if you are interested
>      >
>      >     Brady: I think opening this up for comments to any implementor
>      >     is fine
>      >
>      >     <pkra1> +q
>      >
>      >     Brady: I will try and finish today, and then I’ll ping the list
>      >
>      >     pkra: for us at MathJax it is very interesting, simply because
>      >     polyfilling something as complex as MathML […], the MathML WG
>      >     may be interested as well
>      >
>      >     … re Houdini
>      >
>      >     Brady: Houdini has a very broad interest base
>      >
>      >     Tzviya: Brady, you said you’re working on the pagination AND
>      >     personalization?
>      >
>      >     <dauwhe> pkra: have you seen
>      >     [11]https://wiki.css-houdini.org/explaining-css-layout? Any
>      >     ideas along these lines that would help with Math would be
>      >     great.
>      >
>      >       [11] https://wiki.css-houdini.org/explaining-css-layout?
>      >
>      >     Brady: I am just moving the personalization stuff, not adding
>      >     anything new
>      >
>      >     Tzviya: we have personalization use cases already… [scrolling]
>      >     …. I think we need to clean that up and combine everything
>      >
>      >     … Markus and I agree to take a look at this re cleanup, anyone
>      >     want to help?
>      >
>      >     Liza: I can do it
>      >
>      >     <astearns> inasmuch as Houdini may need new hooks for runtime
>      >     style modifications, it may open new avenues for
>      >     personalization
>      >
>      >     Tzviya: we should have something to present by early next week
>      >
>      >     dauwhe: posted a link to part of the wiki mostly for techie
>      >     people
>      >
>      >     … I have a tiny wishlist for DPUB at the bottom
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> [12]https://wiki.css-houdini.org/explaining-css-layout
>      >
>      >       [12] https://wiki.css-houdini.org/explaining-css-layout
>      >
>      >     <murakami> Printing is also usecase of Houdini.
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> [13]http://w3ctag.github.io/packaging-on-the-web/
>      >
>      >       [13] http://w3ctag.github.io/packaging-on-the-web/
>      >
>      > packaging on the web document
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> markus: we are looking for a review of the packaging
>      >     for the web document
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> ... from the perspective of DPUB. It is an alrernative
>      >     to zip and represents a proposal for multipart MIME
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> ...IDPF did have a version of multipart MIME, and it
>      >     would be interesting to see a comparison of these versions
>      >
>      >     <liza> Skinnier jeans?
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> brady: the IDPF multipart MIME from 1999 was rejected
>      >     because people were interested only in zip
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> ...it's a little odd that this came out without
>      >     consulting the digital publishing community and asking what was
>      >     needed
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> markus: perhaps now is the time for comments on ed
>      >     draft
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> markus: the idea of native support in browsers is
>      >     important
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> tzviya: perhaps the reason that this is relevant now
>      >     is that there is interest in publishing not just "content", but
>      >     information beyond content
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> ...such as data-sets, excel files, programming code...
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> ...and, as people read on mobile devices, zip is not
>      >     the simplest option
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> ...Proprietary options are becoming available
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> dauwhe: I read the spec and concluded that I don't
>      >     understand packaging
>      >
>      >     Tzviya: I also read through the spec, and was technically
>      >     challenging… like with CFI, if there aren’t tools, it cant
>      >     really take off
>      >
>      >     Dave: helpful if there was a guide for background
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> dauwhe: it would be helpful to understand why this is
>      >     being done now and read some background material
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> markus: it would be nice to have 1999 version
>      >     available for background
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> ...the authors in 1999 probably had publishing in mind
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> brady: I will send it out
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> markus: we will do a coordinated IG response
>      >
>      >     <astearns> I'll definitely review
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> reviewers: brady, dave, tzviya, alan
>      >
>      >     <tzviya> markus: 2 weeks from now, we will revisit Packaging
>      >     for Web
>      >
>      >     <scribe> Scribe: Markus
>      >
>      >     Heather: will review i18n documentation
>      >
>      >     <tzviya>
>      >     [14]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/64149/DPUB-STEM-2014-12/
>      >
>      >       [14] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/64149/DPUB-STEM-2014-12/
>      >
>      >     pkra: sent out an email with final draft of STEM survey, please
>      >     take a look so that we rollout next month as planned
>      >
>      >     <pkra1> thx
>      >
>      >     <HeatherF> thanks
>      >
>      > Summary of Action Items
>      >
>      >     [End of minutes]
>      >       __________________________________________________________
>      >
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> --
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> *Julie Morris____*
>
> Project Manager: Standards & Best Practices____
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> Book Industry Study Group | BISG.org <http://www.bisg.org/>____
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> Tel: 646-336-7141 Ext 14 <tel:646-336-7141%20Ext%2014>____
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> Email: julie@bisg.org <mailto:julie@bisg.org>
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