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RE: [Moderator Action] Re: [metadata] What do publishers need to know?

From: Bill Kasdorf <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:30:49 +0000
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com>
CC: Jean Kaplansky <Jean.Kaplansky@aptaracorp.com>, Gerardo Capiel <gerardoc@benetech.org>, Dave Cramer <Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com>, "W3C Digital Publishing IG" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
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+1 I think we're agreed that we'd like to have him attend a meeting but we need to get farther along before we can get the best benefit from that. A month sounds about right.

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From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] 
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To: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken
Cc: Jean Kaplansky; Bill Kasdorf; Gerardo Capiel; Dave Cramer; W3C Digital Publishing IG
Subject: Re: [Moderator Action] Re: [metadata] What do publishers need to know?


On 05 Feb 2014, at 15:57 , Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken <tsiegman@wiley.com> wrote:

> Agreed. Perhaps we should first have an internal discussion about epub-type (or whatever we choose to call it) extension to HTML?

I think we should, in any case, wait a bit before we invite Dan. I think we should have a clearer understanding of the various aspects of the metadata, syntax, vocabulary, and behavioral UI landscape to be able to ask the right questions to Dan. In about a month?

Ivan

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> From: Jean Kaplansky [mailto:Jean.Kaplansky@aptaracorp.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 9:53 AM
> To: Bill Kasdorf; Ivan Herman; Gerardo Capiel
> Cc: Dave Cramer; W3C Digital Publishing IG
> Subject: Re: [Moderator Action] Re: [metadata] What do publishers need to know?
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> +1 I would like to know schema.orgšs perspective, too.
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> On 2/5/14, 9:50 AM, "Bill Kasdorf" <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com> wrote:
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>> I would love to see that happen, Ivan. Markus' and Liza's call, 
>> obviously, but having him be the focus for an upcoming meeting would 
>> be a great idea, imo. And btw I hope if it happens it's a meeting I 
>> don't have to miss!--Bill K
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:52 AM
>> To: Gerardo Capiel
>> Cc: Dave Cramer; W3C Digital Publishing IG
>> Subject: Re: [Moderator Action] Re: [metadata] What do publishers 
>> need to know?
>> 
>> Gerardo, all,
>> 
>> I have not read the articles yet, but just a side note. One of the 
>> public faces of Schema.org is Dan Brickley, with whom I/we have 
>> excellent personal as well as professional contacts (he is 
>> co-chairing another Working Group where I am the staff contact). If 
>> necessary/important, I can invite him to one of our meetings to give 
>> us the schema.org perspective.
>> 
>> Ivan
>> 
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>> On 04 Feb 2014, at 20:34 , Gerardo Capiel <gerardoc@benetech.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> This link may be useful regarding whether to use microdata, RDFa, etc:
>>> 
>>> http://schema.org/docs/faq.html#14
>>> 
>>> We're using microdata on Bookshare:
>>> 
>>> http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets?q=https%3A%2F%2F
>>> w
>>> w
>>> w.bookshare.org%2Fbrowse%2Fbook%2F162937
>>> 
>>> Gerardo
>>> 
>>> Gerardo Capiel
>>> VP of Engineering
>>> benetech
>>> 
>>> 650-644-3405 - Twitter: @gcapiel - GPG: 0x859F11C4 Fork, Code, Do 
>>> Social Good: http://benetech.github.com/
>>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2014, at 10:53 AM, "Cramer, Dave" <Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A major source of confusion for the newcomer is the multiplicity of 
>>>> standards and concepts involved in adding metadata to HTML. It's 
>>>> easy to be disoriented by RDF, RDFa and RDFa Lite. I always confuse 
>>>> microformats and microdata. Is a friend of a friend a turtle or an owl?
>>>> And is it really namespaces all the way down?
>>>> 
>>>> More concretely, Microformats and RDFa Lite appear to be nearly 
>>>> identical in functionality. Reading about the politics surrounding 
>>>> these specs does not fill me with confidence[1]. If  WHATWG, W3C 
>>>> and IDPF can't sort this out, what are we supposed to do?
>>>> 
>>>> I think this interest group could do an immense amount of good if 
>>>> it could educate the publishing community about the principles and 
>>>> practices of the semantic web. What do we need to know?
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> [1]
>>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Nov/0180.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
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