- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:41:56 +0100
- To: Liam Quin <liam@w3.org>
- Cc: Dave Cramer <Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <69104F09-6282-454D-9437-5920A63B065A@w3.org>
On 19 Dec 2013, at 24:15 , Liam R E Quin <liam@w3.org> wrote: > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 16:39 -0500, Cramer, Dave wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> How do you place footnotes in multi-column text? I've seen the >> following: >> >> [1] Footnotes placed in same column as reference, at bottom of page >> [2] Footnotes placed in same column as reference, at bottom of column >> (if the column is short, the footnote will not be near the bottom of >> the page) >> [3] Footnotes in two-column layout placed only at bottom of right-hand >> column >> [4] Footnotes placed in region that spans all columns of page (so >> footnotes are 1-column even if text is multi-column). > > [5] Footnotes placed in region that spans all columns of page, but which > itself multi-column (not necessarily same number of columns as the > body). > > I put some footnote examples up a few years ago for XSL-FO work: > https://www.w3.org/Style/XSL/Group/2008/06/footnote-examples/ Wow. There are more than I imagined:-( Ivan > > At that time we agreed some of them were not in scope for our work: you > still need to solve the underlying problems of course, but not > necessarily with exactly the same layout. But that was for XSL-FO and > not CSS. > >> I'm especially interested in what happens when columns are short, >> uneven, or if the column count changes on a page. > > Uneven, 2 common cases: > 1. there's a single footnote area spanning all the columns, just as tall > as the biggest stack of notes. > 2. per-column footnote areas, as in e,g, > https://www.w3.org/Style/XSL/Group/2008/06/footnote-examples/pages/Kieckhefer-ForbiddenRites-276/ > > > If the column-count changes, sometimes you "empty out" all footnotes in > the middle of the page, so they are really end-notes for a section. > Otherwise, the number of columns in the footnote area doesn't need to > relate to the number of columns in the body. > >> I'm also curious how common it is to set footnotes in multiple columns >> when the body text is a single column. > > Very common in humanities academic publishing I think, where you have a > lot of short footnotes. > > https://www.w3.org/Style/XSL/Group/2008/06/footnote-examples/pages/Charles-II-Pseudepigrapha-Ahikar-745/ > also shows two levels of footnotes - per column, and per page. > > Liam > > > -- > Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ > Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ > Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml > > ---- Ivan Herman, W3C Digital Publishing Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 GPG: 0x343F1A3D FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf
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