Re: Success Criteria of the WebApps WG [was: Re: CfC to publish DeviceOrientation Event CR Snapshot - review by 11 March]

Anssi, everyone,

If we want to change the charter text now, we would need to go back to 
the AC for approval. I'm not aware of any way to mitigate this on 
account of it being an editorial error rather than an intended change.

I believe the shortest time we could accomplish this in is four weeks 
(once the charter text had been updated and prepared to be sent out). 
PLH and/or Xiaoqian will correct me if I'm wrong though.

Léonie

On 26/03/2024 13:25, Kostiainen, Anssi wrote:
> +Atsushi
>
> [Also make text/plain to fix quoting.]
>
>> On 26. Mar 2024, at 15.01, Kostiainen, Anssi <anssi.kostiainen@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Marcos,
>> +Philippe
>>
>>> On 26. Mar 2024, at 0.06, Marcos Caceres <caceres_m@apple.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Anssi,
>>>
>>>> On 25 Mar 2024, at 11:03 PM, Kostiainen, Anssi <anssi.kostiainen@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Process details aside, what does this mean to DAS WG and WebApps WG participants?
>>> As this was an administrative error, that text was not supposed to be removed from the original browser. When we did the original Charter review, we were operating under the assumption that Success Criteria had not changed.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your perspective.
>>
>> We have a reason to believe W3C members reviewed and approved the WebApps WG Charter operating under an assumption the adoption of the standard Success Criteria was deliberate. When we reviewed and approved the charter we were operating under the assumption this substantive change was made to:
>>
>> - specifically satisfy the Joint Deliverables principles as outlined in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2024Mar/0017.html
>> - align WebApps WG with the standard Success Criteria adopted by 39 out of 42 Working Groups
>>
>>> As such, we’d like to move propose a group decision to operate as if the original text was from the previous Charter was still in effect. I acknowledge that that was a terrible oversight on our part, but we have an opportunity to rectify it, so thanks for pointing it out.
>>>
>>> We will move to have a formal CFC to move the group to operate under the previous Success Criteria soon. Rationale being that WebApp’s requirements are more stringent than other working groups, and our distinct  Success Criteria has served Web Apps well for many years - avoiding issues that we see in other working groups.
>> With my chair hat on, and based on my assessment, the proposed charter modification is a substantive change — it significantly affects the way how the joint group functions and impacts the advancement of the joint deliverables on the Recommendation Track. Based on my understanding, the proposed substantive change requires an Advisory Committee review, it is not a group decision. To advance with the publication of the joint deliverables in a timely manner I'd recommend the WebApps WG to keep its current Success Criteria.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Anssi
>>
>>

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Received on Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:07:48 UTC