Re: Concerning the future of the "Decisions and Decision-Making Community Group" at W3C

Good ideas Aaron.  But now, I think we need a mission statement or charter
that puts this group into a context relative to these other groups.  IOW:
What do we bring to the table?  None of the other groups are really working
on clinical decision support.  There is likely because it it is
complicated.  :-)

Tim




On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:09 AM, awheeler@3sigmaresearch.com <
awheeler@3sigmaresearch.com> wrote:

>   Hi All,
>
>  I agree that the healthcare domain seems a good choice. The number of use
> cases will cover many other domains and healthcare would give our ideas
> more exposure to a large, diverse audience. Explicitly relating our work
> with RuleML, W3C RIF, and other standards seems like a good idea too. Maybe
> get them to cross-reference with us too :-)
>
>  Aaron
>
>  Aaron Wheeler, PhD
>  Senior Research Scientist
>  3 Sigma Research, Inc.
>
>
> On March 25, 2014 at 6:47 AM "Timothy W. Cook" <tim@mlhim.org> wrote:
>
>  Piotr makes a good point.  I would like to take this further and ask;
> What is our purpose and charter?
>
>  The wiki doesn't really tell me much.
>
>  For instance:
>
>  How does this group relate to:
>  1) RuleML
>  2) W3C RIF
>
>
>  Thanks,
>  Tim
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Piotr Nowara <piotrnowara@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>  I think the key decision to make is whether we still want to focus on a
> generic decision-making standard or to introduce some domain-level
> discussion. I think the latter would give us better perspectives.
>
>  I'm glad that Tim mentioned the healthcare domain in his email, because I
> think there's a particular need for a decision standard in this field
> (there is already some initial adoption of Semantic Web technologies in
> this domain so it might also be easier to find valuable contributors).
>
>  Greetings,
>  Piotr
>
>
>  2014-03-24 21:52 GMT+01:00 Timothy W. Cook <tim@mlhim.org>:
>
>  Hi All,
>
>  I am very happy to see some activity here.
>
>  As a bit of background; I have been interested in and researching
> clinical decision support for several years.  This has led me away, for a
> bit, from actual decision rules thinking into trying to solve the basic
> lack of interoperability across healthcare systems.  Now with a multi-level
> modelling approach established I am ready to tackle the (fun) decision
> making side again.
>
>  I realize that the group has a broader scope than healthcare but I think
> healthcare is one of the most challenging domains.
>
>  As far as participation.  I will commit to participating and advocating.
>  I am quite active on social media and have a number of colleagues
> interested in healthcare decision support issues.  I can probably encourage
> a few new members to join.
>
>  Cheers,
>  Tim
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Piotr Nowara <piotrnowara@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>  Dear Group,
>
>
>  after the Incubator's final report I've made some minor updates &
> improvements to the decision ontology that was a part of incubator's report
> and I've published it on my decision ontology website[1]. To my surprise
> this website is still generating low but steady web traffic even though
> it's very rarely updated. So there's some kind of evidence that people
> interested in a decision & decision-making standard really exist (even
> outside our group) :)
>
>  Recently a UK-based researcher emailed me asking about our D&DM incubator
> - he wanted to use a standard for descrbing decisions in his project.  I
> might contact him and ask him if he would be interested in joining our
> group.
>
>  In my opinion it would be very valuable if we could develop a tool
> demonstrating the benefits of our approach (for example a Protégé plugin).
>
>  Best regards,
>  Piotr Nowara
>
>  [1]  https://code.google.com/p/decision-ontology/
>
>
>  2014-03-24 18:54 GMT+01:00 Eva Blomqvist <evabl444@gmail.com>:
>
>  Dear colleagues,
> as you are aware, this group was initiated by me and Jeff Waters in 2012,
> as a continuation of the previous incubator group on the same topic. Our
> intention was to carry on and further develop the work we did there.
> However, due to lack of time, the group work never really took off.
>
> At one point, I volunteered to chair the group, but since then I have
> unfortunately not been able to properly manage the group and start off the
> work, mainly due to lack of time on my part. At the moment I am on
> maternity leave, and will not be back in office until the autumn, hence,
> this situation will not improve at least for the next half a year or so.
>
> Nevertheless, I still feel that this is a highly interesting topic, and a
> lot has also happened around Semantic Web initiatives since 2012 that could
> impact decision support systems. So, it would be interesting to see what
> this group would be able to achieve, given the proper management! I would
> therefore like to initiate a discussion among you (the members of the
> group) here on the mailing-list, and suggest that you 1) decide if you also
> feel this group is worth keeping, or if you'd rather we suggest the W3C to
> shut it down, and 2) in case you want to keep it, propose someone else to
> lead the group (in addition to me, or as a replacement to me - I'll agree
> to either approach) and decide on a set of steps for kick-starting the
> group work/discussions.
>
> Best regards,
> Eva Blomqvist
>
>
>
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