- From: Andrea Trasatti <atrasatti@mtld.mobi>
- Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:54:55 +0200
- To: public-ddr-vocab@w3.org
- Cc: public-ddwg@w3.org
Thank you for posting the right link to the meeting summary, Rotan. :) I agree with all you said about comma spaced and array. I tried to keep it simple, but probably a comma spaced list is TOO simple. My only concern is that normally a structure like an array also assumes an order, while we would not have any specific order for mark-up's, for example. Should we refer to the RDF terminology of "Bag" and "Seq"? That way we could use Bag for the list of mark-ups and the Seq in case there's a preference. I'd prefer to keep property names simple and descriptive. - Andrea Il giorno 02/ott/07, alle ore 04:33, Rotan Hanrahan ha scritto: > > As there have been substantive contributions to the vocabulary > recently, > I think it appropriate that we discuss this week and formulate an > opinion by next week's call. > > I noted the change made regarding the representation of supported > image > formats. The proposal is a comma-separated list of predefined > names. As > an API return result, this might be acceptable. As a vocabulary > value, I > have strong doubts. A list that has to be further parsed is ill- > advised. > I recall the problem with UAProf and the need to parse the screen-size > string. In the vocabulary, a list should be a real list, a set > should be > a set. These are "first class" data types. In other words, don't think > of it as a String, but as a String[] or SetOfString. > > It may be acceptable for the API to return the value as a > comma-separated list, if that's what developers demand. However, what > would developers likely do with this comma separated string? I can > think > of two likely things: > > 1. They would parse the string, using the commas as delimiters, in > order > to match the device's supported formats against the image resources > available to the server (or those it is capable of generating). > > 2. They would do a quick pattern match of the string to see if their > resource format is included therein. > > In both cases, giving the developer an array or set directly would be > preferable, as it means the developer doesn't have to write the > parsing > code. (I.e., one more mistake the developer won't be tempted to make.) > > Consequently, my opinion is that the comma-separated list is > inappropriate for the vocabulary, and probably not as useful in the > API > as a real array or set would be. > > The values mentioned in the summary on the wiki look fine. As these > will > all belong to values defined by the vocabulary, I'm assuming they will > all belong to the same "namespace". The proper identifier for each of > these values is a URI, in the vocabulary. Nevertheless, it makes sense > for the API to return these to the developer as simple strings, like > "png". In other words, the API can hide the vocabulary's complexity > involving unique namespaces and URIs. > > We haven't figured out the vocabulary's URI mechanism yet, but the > discussion we had on last week's joint call has helped us move > forward a > little [1]. > > ---Rotan > > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ddwg/2007Oct/0007.html > > > -----Original Message----- > From: public-ddr-vocab-request@w3.org > [mailto:public-ddr-vocab-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Trasatti > Sent: 01 October 2007 15:51 > To: public-ddwg@w3.org > Cc: public-ddr-vocab@w3.org > Subject: [VOC] CoreVocabularySubmissions on the Wiki updated > > > I have updated the page [1] on the Wiki with the submissions received > so far for the Core Vocabulary. > In the last group call [2] was agreed to move from single properties > to sets of values. The updated page reflects this idea. I know the > layout is fat from perfect, this is due limitation in the Wiki > engine. Anyone who knows MoinMoin and wants to suggest a better > layout is welcome. > > We are looking for comments in the very short term to get to approval > soon. > > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/DDWG/wiki/CoreVocabularySubmissions > [2] http://www.w3.org/blog/DDWG/2007/09/20/ > meeting_summary_17_sept_2007 > > Andrea Trasatti > Director of Device Intiatives mTLD > > mTLD Top Level Domain Limited is a private limited company > incorporated and registered in the Republic of Ireland with > registered number 398040 and registered office at Arthur Cox > Building, Earlsfort Terrace, Dublin 2. > > The information contained in this message may be privileged and > confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this > message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent > responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. > > > > >
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