- From: Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@topquadrant.com>
- Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 11:07:56 +0100
- To: public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org
On 12/09/16 00:30, Holger Knublauch wrote:
> Taking this and Andy's input into consideration, maybe sh:langShape is
> an overkill and all we really need is a new parameter such as
> sh:languageIn which takes a node and, if it has a language tag, verifies
> that it matches one of the provided languages following the SPARQL
> langMatches semantics. For example:
>
> ex:MyShape
> a sh:Shape ;
> sh:property [
> sh:predicate skos:prefLabel ;
> sh:or ( [ sh:datatype xsd:string ] [ sh:datatype rdf:langString
> ] ) ;
> sh:langMatches ( "en" "fr" "de" ) .
A note: this is a slightly different operation to sparql:langMatches
which takes a language tag and a language match, not a literal and
language match. Some people prefer that local names are not reused to
mean slightly different things where possible.
> ] .
>
> langMatches could be for just a single language, but having a list is
> shorter for this (apparently) common case in multi-lingual countries
> such as Belgium. I didn't know the RFC supports wildcards - this should
> hopefully flexible enough to cover all given use cases, but others may
> need to confirm.
>
> Regards,
> Holger
>
> PS: Andy, I prefer sh:datatype rdf:langString because it would be one
> thing less to check (by form builders etc), and furthermore I believe
> the semantics of sh:langMatches needs to be that it only does something
> if the literal really has a language tag. Otherwise it would be harder
> to express mixed cases of either string or langString (which I believe
> is quite common).
Consider
sh:property [
sh:predicate skos:prefLabel ;
sh:langMatches ( "en" "fr" "de" ) .
] .
with data:
<uri> skos:prefLabel 123 .
which is a violation when sh:langMatches requires the language tag but
passes if sh:langMatches only triggers if there is a language tag at
all. I find the latter a strange natural interpretation of the shape.
String or language match would be:
sh:or ( [ sh:datatype xsd:string ]
[ sh:langMatches ( "en" "fr" "de" ) ] ) ;
There is no need to test for [ sh:datatype rdf:langString ] as well as
it is implicit in having any language tag so it happens when
sh:langMatches requires the language tag.
For error checking:
This data:
"abcde"^^rdf:langString
is malformed and not in the value-space of rdf:langString; it is like
writing
"abcde"^^xsd:integer
It does have the datatype - it does not represent a legal value.
Another way: make language match "" mean xsd:string. (c.f XML where
xml:lang="" means no language tag althouhg with slightly different
implications).
sh:property [
sh:or ( [ sh:datatype xsd:string ]
[ sh:langMatches ( "en" "fr" "de" ) ] ) ;
] .
vs
sh:property [
sh:predicate skos:prefLabel ;
sh:langMatches ("" "en" "fr" "de" ) .
] .
Andy
>
>
> On 9/09/2016 23:02, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote:
>> What Holger proposes is flexible and we have the option to reuse some
>> existing constructs but I have some concerns about this design
>>
>> the reason is that we currently have focus node constraints and
>> property (path) constraints
>> with this approach we create a new construct only for languages that
>> is not clear what it is and how it operates e.g.
>> - if there are any differences in the meaning of e.g. sh:in when it
>> is used in a language context and when not
>> - how sh:langShape inter-operates with the extension mechanism and
>> - what does it mean to have e.g. sh:class in a sh:langShape (does all
>> constraints apply in all places?)
>>
>> I would prefer the creation of a few new constraint components e.g.
>> sh:languageIn that allows us to enable (if we want) the RFCs Andy
>> suggested.
>>
>> Another option would be to generalize the mechanism Holger suggested
>> and provide transformation functions on the focus nodes / values a
>> shapes selects
>> This way we would be able to e.g. create a sets/lists of language
>> tags, unwrap RDF lists, etc and apply the shacl core components on the
>> transformed values
>> However, I think it is a bit late to try something in this direction
>>
>> Best,
>> Dimitris
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:58 AM, Holger Knublauch
>> <holger@topquadrant.com <mailto:holger@topquadrant.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I was given the task of writing up sh:langShape today. I already
>> did a few months back:
>>
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-data-shapes-wg/2016Mar/0262.html
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-data-shapes-wg/2016Mar/0262.html>
>>
>> From the list of requirements at
>>
>> https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/Proposals#ISSUE-137_Missing_constraint_for_language_tag
>> <https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/Proposals#ISSUE-137_Missing_constraint_for_language_tag>
>>
>> * In SKOS, there can be only one prefLabel per language tag
>>
>> Already exists: sh:uniqueLang true
>>
>> * Constrain the valid language tags to a provided set, e.g.
>> (@en, @de, @fr)
>>
>> See my email, sh:langShape [ sh:in ( "en" "de" "fr" ) ]
>>
>> * Require that all literals have/do not have a language tag
>>
>> Already exists: sh:datatype rdf:langString
>>
>> * Require that a particular property have a set of literals, one
>> each language tag, e.g. "there must be 3 instances of
>> dct:abstract; the values must be literals; there must be one
>> literal for each valid language code (@en, @de, @fr)"
>>
>> Can be expressed through a combination of sh:minCount = 3,
>> sh:maxCount = 3, sh:uniqueLang. (What are "instances of
>> dct:abstract"?)
>>
>> * Check that the language tag is 2-letter | 3-letter | does/does
>> not have hyphens
>>
>> sh:langShape [ sh:minLength 2 ; sh:maxLength 2 ; or: sh:pattern
>> "... regex ..." ]
>>
>> * Check that the 2 or 3-letter tag is valid
>>
>>
>> Assuming that the list of valid tags is stored somewhere, e.g. in
>> an rdf:List iso:ValidLanguages:
>>
>> sh:langShape [ sh:in iso:ValidLanguages ]
>>
>> I don't think maintaining such a list ourselves is within the
>> scope of the WG, yet it could be expressed in the Core language.
>>
>>
>> PROPOSAL: Add sh:langShape as outlined. Meaning: if a value node
>> has a language tag then the string of the language tag itself
>> needs to have the given sh:Shape.
>>
>>
>> Holger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dimitris Kontokostas
>> Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig & DBpedia
>> Association
>> Projects: http://dbpedia.org, http://rdfunit.aksw.org,
>> http://aligned-project.eu
>> Homepage: http://aksw.org/DimitrisKontokostas
>> Research Group: AKSW/KILT http://aksw.org/Groups/KILT
>>
>
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