- From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 08:15:51 -0700
- To: Dimitris Kontokostas <kontokostas@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
- Cc: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>, public-data-shapes-wg <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org>
The word "instance" currently occurs 56 times in the SHACL specification. Many of these occurences involve inferencing, notably Shapes are instances of the class sh:Shape Class-based scopes define the scope as the set of all instances of a class. If, in the shapes graph, a shape is an instance of both sh:Shape and rdfs:Class every instance of an abstract class instances of sh:Scope Instances of constraint types instances of sh:NodeConstraint. The property sh:class can be used to verify that each value node is an instance of a given type. The property sh:classIn can be used to verify that each value node is an instance of a type from a given list. The values of sh:nodeKind must be instances of the class sh:NodeKind. The values of sh:in must be well-formed instances of rdf:List. Property constraints may link to an instance of the class sh:PropertyGroup The values of sh:constraint may be instances of any subclass of sh:Constraint. Validation results must be instances of the class sh:ValidationResult. SHACL implementations may produce instances of other subclasses of sh:AbstractResult, The values of this property must be instances of the class sh:Constraint. Each parameter must be an instance of sh:Parameter, SPARQL-based scopes must be instances of sh:SPARQLScope, The values of sh:derivedValues must be instances of a subclass of sh:ValuesDeriver. Functions that encapsulate a SPARQL query must be instances of sh:SPARQLFunction Each parameter must be an instance of sh:Parameter Instances of sh:SPARQLFunction must have exactly one value for the property sh:sparql This doesn't even consider "subclass" and "superclass", which both do show up in the SHACL specification. It also doesn't consider "type", which shows up a lot. So there is lots of RDFS inferencing going on in the shapes graph, and more RDFS inferencing going on in the data graph than just for class scopes and sh:class. peter On 05/11/2016 07:26 AM, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: > > > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider > <pfpschneider@gmail.com <mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com>> wrote: > > But SHACL does do RDFS inferencing in the data graph. In particular, the > sh:class depends in RDFS inferencing, namely inference rule rdfs11 from > https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-mt/#rdfs-entailment. At one time sh:class also > depended on inference rules rdfs4a and rdfs4b as well as the RDFS axiom > rdf:first rdfs:domain rdf:List . > > So saying that SHACL doesn't do RDFS inferencing in the data graph is > incorrect. > > > Correct, so I will slightly revise > > we say that SHACL uses rdf and rdfs terms but a shacl processors takes two > immutable graphs (shapes & data) and performs no rdfs inferencing on the > graphs at all > except for two cases: sh:classScope and sh:class > any other inferencing must be performed as a preprocessing step and is out of > scope for shacl > > ... define the term "shacl instance" and give more details on sh:classScope > and sh:class > > The wording now is noway near perfect but if you agree with this direction > maybe you can help us write it down in a nicer way > > > > > Simmilarly SHACL does RDFS inferencing in the shapes graph when it accepts > ex:s1 as a shape in > > ex:Shape rdfs:subClassOf sh:Shape . > ex:s1 rdf:type ex:Shape ; > sh:scopeClass ex:Person ; > sh:constraint [ rdf:type sh:NodeConstraint ; > sh:nodeKind sh:IRI ] . > > (This appears to be an acceptable SHACL shape, based on the SHACL > specification.) > > > Of course, SHACL does not do *complete* RDFS inferencing. In particular, > there is no SHACL shape in > > ex:subClassOf rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:subClassOf . > ex:Shape ex:subClassOf sh:Shape . > ex:s1 rdf:type ex:Shape ; > sh:scopeClass ex:Person ; > sh:constraint [ rdf:type sh:NodeConstraint ; > sh:nodeKind sh:IRI ] . > > > Both of these cases can be considered (imho) edge cases. > I believe no one will object to disallow them if we can get to a resolution > > Dimitris > > > peter > > > > > On 05/11/2016 01:58 AM, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: > > I am reopening this old thread which is more related to the other open > > discussions we have atm. > > > > Looking at Tom Baker's emails and in particular [1] (the first three > > paragraphs under discussion) I was wondering if this can be a way forward > > > > in particular say that SHACL uses rdf and rdfs terms but a shacl processors > > takes two immutable graphs (shapes & data) and performs no rdfs inferencing on > > the graphs at all > > any inferencing must be performed as a preprocessing step and is out of scope > > for shacl > > In there we define the term "shacl instance" which is used in only two places > > in the spec, in sh:classScope and sh:class and no-where else > > if people believe that we should disallow optional rdf:type statements (e.g. > > for sh:property) I do not mind if this can unblock the current situation > > Peter, would using the terms instance, class or subClassOf be fine under these > > conditions? > > > > (I am also in favor of dropping sh:entailment btw) > > > > Any comments on this? > > > > Best, > > Dimitris > > > > [1] https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind1605&L=DC-ARCHITECTURE&P=3148 > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com <mailto:holger@topquadrant.com> > > <mailto:holger@topquadrant.com <mailto:holger@topquadrant.com>>> wrote: > > > > This is becoming a long long thread about what is an entirely editorial > > matter. I don't think it deserves the urgency. I also do not agree that we > > are misusing these terms at all. I believe to make progress we could > > > > a) try to find alternative terms (Peter suggested "SHACL instance" etc, > > but it could also be "is-a") > > b) follow the lead of what other, similar W3C specs are doing > > c) define the terms in the beginning and then use them as <span > > class="term">instance</span> so that the reader knows that we use that > > definition. That would be my preferred solution. > > > > Looking at the OWL 2 spec [1] the term "instance" is used in many > > different contexts, without even being defined: > > - "Each OWL 2 ontology represented as an instance of this conceptual > > structure" > > - "if an individual /a:Peter/ is an instance of the class /a:Student/, > > and /a:Student/ is a subclass of /a:Person/, then from the OWL 2 > semantics > > one can derive that /a:Peter/ is also an instance of /a:Person/." > > - "Instances of the UML classes" > > - Class expressions represent sets of individuals by formally specifying > > conditions on the individuals' properties; individuals satisfying these > > conditions are said to be /instances/ of the respective class > expressions" > > - ... > > > > Not only does OWL use the term "instance" inconsistently but even > changes > > the RDF term by applying additional OWL semantics. RDFS does not > have the > > monopoly on these terms. > > > > The problem is not our use of these terms but the misleading section 1.1 > > that needs to be replaced. I liked a previous proposal from Dimitris, > > along the lines of "SHACL is based on pattern matching like SPARQL. > > Inferencing is not required but there is no harm if inferencing is > > activated (be it OWL or RDFS inferencing)". Then define the terms > similar > > to what we currently have at the end of section 1.1. And that's it. > > > > Holger > > > > > > > > https://www.w3.org/TR/owl2-syntax/ > > > > > > On 22/03/2016 4:15, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: > >> I don't think that this helps at all. In fact, all that it does is > further > >> obfuscate the issue. The issue is that the wording needs to be > clear that in > >> > >> sh:shape rdf:type my:Shape . > >> my:subClassOf rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:subClassOf. > >> my:Shape my:subClassOf sh:Shape . > >> > >> my:Shape is not a SHACL shape, but that in > >> > >> sh:shape rdf:type my:Shape . > >> my:Shape rdfs:subClassOf sh:Shape . > >> > >> it is. > >> > >> There are many cases where the SHACL notion of subclass, instance, > typing, > >> etc., diverges from the common definition of these notions. > >> > >> peter > >> > >> > >> On 03/21/2016 02:05 AM, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: > >>> Hi Peter, I did some research on other w3c specs regarding the > term instance. > >>> > >>> if we changed occurrences of instance from e.g. > >>> "shapes are the instances of sh:Shape" to > >>> "sh:Shape is the class of all shapes" > >>> would this be fine from your side? > >>> > >>> Some cases like sh:class and sh:classScope would need extra care > of course. > >>> > >>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider > >>> <pfpschneider@gmail.com <mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com> > <mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com <mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com>> > <mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com <mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com>> > <mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com <mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com>>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Even in this situation I think that "instance" in the rest of the document > >>> needs to be qualified. Some readers of the document will know about RDFS > >>> instance and will need to be continually reminded that the meaning that they > >>> know for "instance" is not being used in this document. > >>> > >>> peter > >>> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dimitris Kontokostas > > Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig & DBpedia Association > > Projects: http://dbpedia.org, http://rdfunit.aksw.org, > > http://aligned-project.eu <http://aligned-project.eu/> > > Homepage:http://aksw.org/DimitrisKontokostas > > Research Group: AKSW/KILT http://aksw.org/Groups/KILT > > > > > > > -- > Dimitris Kontokostas > Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig & DBpedia Association > Projects: http://dbpedia.org, http://rdfunit.aksw.org, http://aligned-project.eu > Homepage: http://aksw.org/DimitrisKontokostas > Research Group: AKSW/KILT http://aksw.org/Groups/KILT >
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