- From: Jim Amsden <jamsden@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:22:32 -0500
- To: kcoyle@kcoyle.net
- Cc: "public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org" <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <201603311325.u2VDPZ78017734@d01av05.pok.ibm.com>
Or: "SHACL is a language for describing information about, and constraints on RDF graphs, and a set of rules for assessing the conformance of RDF data to those constraints." This includes: 1. that shapes can also be used to capture interesting metadata 2. that the conformance of a graph to the shapes is assessed and some resulting report is provided 3. that shapes can apply to any RDF graph, including OWL or RDFS, not just instances. Jim Amsden, Senior Technical Staff Member OSLC and Linked Lifecycle Data 919-525-6575 From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net> To: "public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org" <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org> Date: 03/30/2016 04:53 PM Subject: Issue 93 I agree with Harold that the wording in the draft tends to confound the validation description language and the rules for implementing the validation. Even in the introduction, it says: "SHACL (Shapes Constraint Language) is a language for describing and constraining RDF graphs." Which I think could be more clearly stated as: "SHACL is a language for describing constraints on RDF graphs, and a set of rules for applying those constraints to RDF instance data." (Except "applying" isn't right, because it's really a test, the instance data isn't modified, so...) "SHACL is a language for describing constraints on RDF graphs, and a set of rules for *comparing* those constraints to RDF instance data." or "SHACL is a language for describing constraints on RDF graphs, and a set of rules for testing the conformance of RDF instance data to those constraints." Or something to that effect. The language itself doesn't do any constraining, and the "engine" doesn't do any describing, so we clearly have (at least) two different things. Arnaud suggested [1] that we not talk about engines at all. I need to think more about that, but would "rules" meet the definition of "not an engine"? If so, I could try to at least identify the areas of the spec that need modification, and could suggest wording changes to Dimitris and Holger. That assumes that in the investigation of the wording a deeper problem isn't found between the concepts. kc [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-data-shapes-wg/2015Sep/0228.html -- Karen Coyle kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
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