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Re: type and instance and subclass in SHACL documents

From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:15:39 -0700
To: Dimitris Kontokostas <kontokostas@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Cc: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>, public-data-shapes-wg <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <56F03A4B.4090304@gmail.com>
I don't think that this helps at all.  In fact, all that it does is further
obfuscate the issue.  The issue is that the wording needs to be clear that in

  sh:shape rdf:type my:Shape .
  my:subClassOf rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:subClassOf.
  my:Shape my:subClassOf sh:Shape .

my:Shape is not a SHACL shape, but that in

  sh:shape rdf:type my:Shape .
  my:Shape rdfs:subClassOf sh:Shape .

it is.

There are many cases where the SHACL notion of subclass, instance, typing,
etc., diverges from the common definition of these notions.

peter


On 03/21/2016 02:05 AM, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote:
> Hi Peter, I did some research on other w3c specs regarding the term instance.
> 
> if we changed occurrences of instance from e.g.
> "shapes are the instances of sh:Shape" to
> "sh:Shape is the class of all shapes" 
> would this be fine from your side?
> 
> Some cases like sh:class and sh:classScope would need extra care of course.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider
> <pfpschneider@gmail.com <mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Even in this situation I think that "instance" in the rest of the document
>     needs to be qualified.  Some readers of the document will know about RDFS
>     instance and will need to be continually reminded that the meaning that they
>     know for "instance" is not being used in this document.
> 
>     peter
> 
> 
> 
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> Dimitris Kontokostas
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