- From: Jim Amsden <jamsden@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:52:57 -0400
- To: "public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org" <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <201604291853.u3TIr4AH024021@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com>
Holger,
It's very possible that I don't fully understand the issues you are
raising. However it seems my proposal and yours have the identical effect.
Your example:
ex:MyClass
a rdfs:Class, sh:Shape ;
sh:constraint sh:Abstract .
which implies the following node constraint:
sh:Abstract
a sh:NodeConstraint ;
sh:abstract true .
simply says ex:MyClass is abstract. In your approach, ex:MyClass has to
also be an sh:Shape in order to apply the sh:constraint property.
But this seems unnecessary. In my approach, ex:MyClass is just an RDF
class.
ex:MyClass
a rdfs:Class ;
dcterms:title: "MyClass" .
The class, like most classes, is described without including any
constraints in order for the same class to be constrained for different
purposes in different usage scenarios, in different graphs.
The constraint is applied by using a scope class to define the constraint
and reference the constrained class:
sh:Abstract
a sh:NodeConstraint ;
sh:scopeClass ex:MyClass ;
sh:abstract true .
When the graph containing this shape is applied to the graph containing
ex:MyClass, the constraint takes effect and restricts the creation of
direct instances of ex:MyClass. Other graphs might use ex:MyClass in
situations where it could have direct instances in which case perhaps
different or no constraints are applied.
Regarding you questions:
- how to find the current class we are looking at and its subclasses only
- as specified by the sh:scopeClass values of the constraint.
- how to establish the linkage between class and shape (sh:scopeClass
only, why?) - using sh:scopeClass, seems sufficient.
Jim Amsden, Senior Technical Staff Member
OSLC and Linked Lifecycle Data
919-525-6575
From: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>
To: "public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org" <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org>
Date: 04/14/2016 03:44 PM
Subject: Re: ISSUE-78: Proposal for Abstract Classes Constraint
I believe you'd need to formulate a very precise definition of how this
should be defined. I tried it, but failed, because of issues such as
- how to find the current class we are looking at and its subclasses only
- how to establish the linkage between class and shape (sh:scopeClass
only, why?)
If someone can come up with a suitable defintion, then I'll throw my
support back into the ring.
My preferred alternative would have been to just make this a boolean
annotation property on rdfs:Class. We have other non-validating properties
elsewhere. Such an annotation property is enough to guide UI tools. But
people will argue that such a boolean doesn't belong into SHACL. The
counter argument would be that even our own data model uses abstract
classes (sh:Constraint for example), so putting some formal grounding
would make sense.
Holger
On 14/04/2016 23:41, Jim Amsden wrote:
Holger,
I see your point. But having a resource be both a shape and a class,
although convenient in some situations, creates a tight coupling between
the class and the shape. In the case of abstract classes, this tight
coupling would seem useful as you suggest because the abstract constraint
applies directly to the class and therefore all its instances.
But allowing the abstract constraint to be in a separate shape allows it
to be applied to many classes, even perhaps different classes in different
contexts. For example, if you used the state pattern to model different
states of a resource as different subclasses, you might want to apply
different abstract constraints to control which states the resource might
be allowed to be in (which instances are allowed) in different lifecycle
contexts.
It seems simple enough that we have the notion of Shape, and the notion of
class scope. If we think of abstract as a constraint, then it seems
reasonable to specify that constraint in a shape, along with other
constraints that might be defined, and then apply that constraint in some
scope. Then this allows different uses of a graph to apply different
shapes for different purposes.
Jim Amsden, Senior Technical Staff Member
OSLC and Linked Lifecycle Data
919-525-6575
From: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>
To: public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org
Date: 04/13/2016 01:06 AM
Subject: Re: ISSUE-78: Proposal for Abstract Classes Constraint
Hi Jim,
I've thought a lot a bit this feature recently, but came to the conclusion
that it only made sense for classes that are also shapes. Going the extra
step via sh:scopeClass feels artificial and makes the whole thing rather
hard to justify, because abstractness is really not a property of a shape.
We have taken sh:ShapeClass out of the spec, so the only case that I would
find reasonable would be:
ex:MyClass
a rdfs:Class, sh:Shape ;
sh:constraint sh:Abstract .
Above, sh:Abstract would be a syntactic sugar instance of
sh:NodeConstraint that can be shared across classes:
sh:Abstract
a sh:NodeConstraint ;
sh:abstract true .
The condition would then be that all instances of ex:MyClass must also
have at least one rdf:type triple for a subclass of ex:MyClass, where NOT
EXISTS { ?subClass sh:constraint/sh:abstract true } in the $shapesGraph.
Can you tell whether such mixed class/shapes are an option?
Holger
On 12/04/2016 4:02, Jim Amsden wrote:
re: ISSUE-78: Abstract Classes: There is no use case or requirement for
SHACL to support abstract classes, but the issue provides reasonable
motivation and the votes on the issue are >0.
The current spec contains the following paragraph in section 2.1.2.1
Implicit Class Scopes:
Classes may be declared to be abstract by setting their property
sh:abstract to true. Abstract classes SHOULDnot be instantiated directly,
i.e. every instance of an abstract class SHOULD also have an rdf:type
triple to a non-abstract subclass of the abstract class.
where "Classes" references sh:ShapeClass. The concept of abstract class
could instead be expressed as a node constraint. This would allow a class
to be abstract or concrete in different situations based on the domain
needs.
Proposal:
Remove the paragraph about abstract classes from section 2.1.2.1.
Add sh:abstract to the table in section 3 and indicate that it is a
sh:NodeConstraint.
Add section 3.10 Abstract Class Constraint
Classes may be constrained to be abstract by creating a node constraint
with class scope, and including the sh:isAbstract property set to true.
Abstract classes SHOULDnot be instantiated directly. Every instance of an
abstract class SHOULDalso have an rdf:type triple to a non-abstract
subclass of the abstract class.
#Example abstract class constraint:
ex:AnAbstractClassConstraint
a sh:Shape ;
sh:scopeNode ex:AnAbstractClass ;
sh:isAbstract true .
#Example graph data
ex:AnAbstractClass
a rdfs:Class ;
dcterms:title "Example of an abstract class constraint." .
Jim Amsden, Senior Technical Staff Member
OSLC and Linked Lifecycle Data
919-525-6575
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