- From: Arthur Ryman <arthur.ryman@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:00:39 -0400
- To: "public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org" <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org>
Peter/Holger, Concerning RDFS, I'd prefer to see SHACL specified purely in terms of graphs, i.e. what you get after entailment. I also believe that the spec should strongly recommend that RDFS entailment be applied if the graph uses RDFS, otherwise SHACL may not produce the expected results. I agree with Peter that we should not define a subset RDFS - it should be used either all or nothing. Similar comments apply to OWL. However, OWL introduces the issue of non-unique naming, even in a closed world. For example, if I specify that ex:hasFather is zero-or-one, and have the following: ex:Luke ex:hasFather ex:Anakin . ex:Luke ex:hasFather ex:Darth . ex:Anakin owl:sameAs ex:Darth . then there should be no violation. This is related to the issue that Peter often raised about if we are comparing literals lexically or by value. In a sense, the alternative equivalent lexical strings are aliases for the same value. -- Arthur On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 03/03/2015 05:11 PM, Holger Knublauch wrote: >> Hi Peter, >> >> thanks for this proposal. Interesting to see alternative ways of >> introducing/explaining/specifying this technology. Of course lots of >> details are missing, so this would need much more work. >> >> As a first step, I am trying to enumerate the differences between your >> proposal and what's currently in the draft spec. Comments in-line. >> >> On 3/4/2015 4:02, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Here is the core of what I think a SHACL specification based on SPARQL >>> should look like. >>> >>> peter >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> SHACL Specification >>> >>> >>> Preliminaries >>> >>> Throughout the text of this document IRIs are written in CURIE form >>> using the following prefixes: rdf = ... rdfs = ... xsd = ... shacl = >>> ... >>> >>> >>> The SHACL Core Constraint Language >>> >>> SHACL is based on the SPARQL 1.1 Query Language. In SHACL, certain >>> results of the evaluation of SPARQL 1.1 Query Language queries >>> (hereafter SPARQL queries) on an RDF graph or dataset under the RDFS >>> entailment regime are interpreted as constraint violations. >> >> Do you want to make RDFS entailment mandatory? > > Yes. > >> You seem to want to give SPARQL is more dominant role than in my >> proposal, where other "native" language would be more easily integrated >> in the future. Correct? > > Correct. I'm not in favour of having alternative execution engines. Let's > make SPARQL dominant. > > This doesn't mean that there could not be another semantics for part of > SHACL, but any such semantics would have to be shown to be equivalent to the > definitive SPARQL semantics. > > >>> >>> The different kinds of results for SPARQL queries require different >>> ways of interpreting results in SHACL. For a SELECT query, each >>> separate mapping is interpreted as a separate violation of the >>> constraint. If there are no mappings then the constraint is not >>> violated. For a CONSTRUCT query, each RDFS instance of shacl:violation >>> (node whose denotation is in the class extension of shacl:violation in >>> all RDFS models of the constructed graph) is a separate violation of >>> the constraint. If there are no RDFS instances of shacl:violation in >>> the constructed graph then the constraint is not violated. For an ASK >>> query, a true result is interpreted as a violation and a false result >>> is interpreted as not a violation. (This interpretation makes ASK >>> constraints similar to the other kinds of constraints.) DESCRIBE >>> queries are not used in SHACL. >> >> This is similar, bar syntactic details on RDF triple level. > > Yes. I have shameless stolen from SPIN and elsewhere. > >>> The SHACL Control Language >>> >>> SHACL constraints can be directly evaluated, just as SPARQL queries >>> are. All that is needed is a SHACL constraint and an RDF graph or >>> dataset. The result of the constraint is the result of the query, and >>> is interpreted as above. >>> >>> SHACL constraints can also be encoded and collected in RDF graphs. >>> Each node in such a graph that is an RDFS instance of shacl:Constraint >>> is the control node of a SHACL constraint. A SHACL engine evaluates >>> the constraints in an RDF graph by taking each such node and evaluating >>> the node's constraint against an RDF graph or dataset. >> >> Does this relate to global constraints in the current SHACL draft? > > Not really. This is a way of encoding SHACL so that tools can read and > execute it. > >>> SHACL control nodes can also have a shacl:severity link to one or more >>> of shacl:fatal, shacl:warning, or shacl:informative, indicating the >>> severity of any violations of the constraint. >> >> This property is currently called sh:level, but sh:severity would work >> too. I have added a corresponding note. > > I don't care about the precise vocabulary. > >>> The SHACL Core Control Language >>> >>> The simplest kind of SHACL control node is a node linked via a >>> shacl:constraint triple to a SPARQL constraint encoded as an RDF >>> string literal. These nodes are called SHACL Core Control Nodes. >> >> Looks equivalent to sh:NativeConstraint + sh:constraint. > > Probably. > >>> The SHACL Extended Control Language >>> >>> Other SHACL control nodes allow the separation of a constraint into >>> three sections: a scope section, a shape section, and a reporting >>> section. These SHACL control nodes, called SHACL Extended Control >>> Nodes, must have precisely one of the ways below of specifying the >>> scope and the shape, at most one way of specifying reporting, and at >>> most one way of specifying severity. >>> >>> The scope of a SHACL constraint is specified via 1/ a >>> shacl:individualScope link to an IRI literal, 2/ a shacl:classScope >>> link to an IRI literal, >> >> What are "IRI literals"? xsd:anyURI? > > Yes, as shown below. I have tried to be as representationally pure as > possible here. > >> shacl:individualScope appears similar to rdf:type/sh:nodeShape? >> >> I don't understand shacl:classScope. > > shacl:individualScope checks a single node. shacl:classShape checks all > RDFS instances of a class. > > >> Overall you seem to invert the direction of the linkage: constraints >> appear stand-alone entities have a forward reference into a class or >> individual. > > Correct, and this was a particular choice. > >> While these relationships can be walked in either direction, my current >> draft does the linkage in the opposite direction from yours, because I >> believe this is far easier to write down when you start at a class or >> shape. > > >>> 3/ a shacl:shapeScope link to a SHACL shape (see below), or 4/ a >>> shacl:constraintScope link to a string literal. >> >> I don't understand shacl:constraintScope. > > This permits arbitrary SPARQL to be the scope of a constraint. > >>> The shape of a SHACL constraint is specified via 1/ a shacl:shape link >>> to a SHACL shape (see below), or >> >> How is shapeScope different from shacl:shape? > > One is the scope, the other is the constraining shape. This allows, for > example, to check that all nodes with an ex:bug link to ex:verified satisfy > a particular shape. The shapeScope would be something like [ shacl:property > "ex:bug"^^xsd:anyURI, shacl:value "ex:verified"^^xsd:anyURI ]. (This shows > how pedantic the proposal is about separating use and mention.) > >>> 2/ a shacl:constraint link to a string literal. >>> >>> The reporting for a SHACL constraint is specified via 1/ a shacl:report >>> link to a string literal. >> >> Is this sh:message? > > Not really. This would for example allow for things like SELECT ( ?this > ?status) in the encoded SPARQL. Turning this into actual messages is not > in the proposal as of yet. > >>> These kinds of SHACL control nodes are handled by first constructing >>> three parts of the SHACL constraint. 1/ The control portion of the >>> constraint, <control>, is a/ VALUES ?this { <IRI> } for a >>> shacl:individualScope link to "<IRI>"^^xsd:anyURI b/ ?this rdf:type >>> <IRI> . for a shacl:classScope link to "<IRI>"^^xsd:anyURI >> >> SPIN/current SHACL would also walk the subClassOf triples here, not just >> the direct rdf:type. This means that RDFS entailment is not required. > > Yes, and I am violently against going half-way to RDFS. > >> Why encode IRIs are strings first? > > To separate use and mention. It may be that I am being too pedantic but I > thought that I should provide the most representational purity as a start. > >>> c/ <shape> for a shacl:shapeScope link to a node that encodes <shape> >>> (see below) d/ <query> for a shacl:queryScope link to >>> "<query>"^^xsd:string 2/ The shape portion of the constraint, <shape>, >>> is a/ <shape> for a shacl:shape link to a node that encodes <shape> >>> (see below) b/ <query> for a shacl:query link to the string >>> "<query>"^^xsd:string 3/ The reporting portion of the constraint, >>> <report>, is a/ SELECT ?this when there is no shacl:report link b/ >>> <report> for a shacl:report link to "<report>"^^xsd:string >>> >>> The constraint for a SHACL Extended Control Node is then constructed >>> as >>> >>> PREFIX rdf: ... PREFIX rdfs: ... PREFIX xsd: ... PREFIX shacl: ... >>> <report> WHERE { <control> MINUS { <shape> } } >> >> I cannot claim that I have understood this. Examples and more complete >> snippets would help. > > I'll put together a couple of examples shortly, but the basic idea is that > all this machinery lets you encode many kinds of SPARQL queries in a > mix-and-match fashion. > >>> >>> SHACL Simple Shape Language >>> >>> SHACL provides a vocabulary for generating the shape portion of >>> constraints. In conjunction with the SHACL Extended Control Language >>> this vocabulary permits the construction of many, but not all, >>> constraints without needing to write SPARQL queries. >>> >>> A SHACL shape node is a node that is an RDFS instance of shacl:Shape. >>> Each SHACL shape encodes some SPARQL syntax, their shape, that can be >>> used in SHACL constraints. >>> >>> Many SHACL shapes utilize an RDF property. This property is specified >>> by a shacl:property link to an IRI literal. >> >> Is this equivalent to sh:predicate? > > I think so. > >> Also, why do "shapes" point at a property - shouldn't this be the >> constraints that the shape uses? Or maybe your term "Shape" is my term >> "Template"? > > I don't think so. A shape here is really a bit of SPARQL that has > conceptually one free variable. These shapes can be combined (using > conjunction, for example) to create the shape that is top-level part of a > constraint and the combined with the other bits to create a SPARL query that > returns violations of the constraint. > >>> A SHACL property shape with a shacl:valueType link to an IRI literal >>> limits the values of a property to be RDFS instances of a class. The >>> shape by a SHACL property node with a shacl:property link to >>> "<property>"^^xsd:anyURI and a shacl:valueType link to >>> "<valueType>"^^xsd:anyURI is FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?this <property> V . >>> FILTER NOT EXISTS { V rdf:type <valueType> . } } where V is a fresh >>> variable. >>> >>> ... add other high-level-language constructs here ... >> >> Looks largely equivalent. > > This would have the same stuff you would have, maybe with minor syntactic > differences. > >>> SHACL Errors >>> >>> If a node in an RDF graph is both a core control node and an extended >>> control node the result of evaluating the graph is undefined. If a >>> node in an RDF graph that is an RDFS instance of shacl:constraint is >>> neither a SHACL Core Control Node nor a SHACL Extended Control Node the >>> result of evaluating the graph is undefined. If a SHACL shape node in >>> an RDF graph encodes more than shape then the result of evaluating the >>> graph is undefined. SHACL engines should signal an error on such >>> graphs. >> >> This seems to exclude the possibility to check constraints over a SHACL >> graph, i.e. apply SHACL to itself. > > No. There is no prohibition of having a RDF graph that contains SHACL > constraints as the data that is being checked by another RDF graph (or even > the same RDF graph) that encodes SHACL constraints. > >>> If evaluation of a constraint would produce a SPARQL error the >>> constraint is invalid. SHACL engines should signal an error for that >>> constraint. >> >> I need much more details before I'd be able to comment further on this >> proposal. >> >> Much of it overlaps with the current SHACL draft, yet some aspects seem >> to depart quite a bit. I wonder why we should replace design patterns >> that have already been used successfully in SPIN for many years with >> something experimental, especially your proposed mechanism to represent >> and group constraints together. In the absence of strong reasons, I'd >> vote for established patterns. Also your use of xsd:anyURI instead of >> real IRI references looks very unusual. I also anticipate a lot of >> resistance on the strong binding to SPARQL within the WG, and I'd rather >> be willing to compromise on that. >> >> Thanks Holger > > My intent is to get rid of the parts of SPIN that impinge on RDFS to produce > a pure constraint/shape specification. > > This specification is essentially complete. It provides the only control > structures permissable. All that is missing is the set of simple shape > encoders, and maybe a template mechanism to define new shape encoders. > > > peter > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJU9mvUAAoJECjN6+QThfjzdYIH+wT716Ji+M+9VZM+08+y1flN > 6wbKZGl6cVzJMj16cHx/PVBj5dxMoJoVr3xLPT8YMUgTgJhRjWe6FvfBngFHf9dw > o9LynnOOAG1aTqUt3xeD/rMDWDJ75drrxxqyzyP7WdtumNm4/WSbasIbaVJbl1s2 > Tv/H+3LBIqFytW5G2HL4TAUw7EKYNKqSMfCYwk1GvRxobq60xPOlvjo/63v3eRPm > J4HUKo3TPKAoQHTToVcvoRNeQmxcaNcFZpN+ssEuKarwpF7+kTAkyF9Z3nsGWXKw > j0tJWrsZvjfn6O7/NiZW+/oJoz7E8fif+XuD9nCJZygec4huPgEmTbJC9iF8oFA= > =WIg2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >
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