Re: a path towards implementing the way forward

Peter,

Yes, features like negation and disjunction complicate the semantics
of recursion. I'll analyze the latest SHACL spec.

-- Arthur

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider
<pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
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> The semantics in [2] is not adequate to handle sh:hasShape, as far as I can
> tell, as the semantics only covers positive recursion and sh:hasShape
> permits negation in recursive loops.
>
> peter
>
> On 06/11/2015 02:56 PM, Arthur Ryman wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> I added a link to the wiki [1]. The document is at [2].
>>
>> [1]
>> https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/Main_Page#Other_Input_Documents
>> [2] http://arxiv.org/abs/1505.04972
>>
>> -- Arthur
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider
>> <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote: Could you send the pointer to your
>> well-founded semantics again?
>>
>> Putting a link on the WG Wiki page would also be helpful.
>>
>> peter
>>
>>
>> On 06/11/2015 11:01 AM, Arthur Ryman wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider
>>>>> <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> Which limited forms of recursion do you mean?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where are these limited forms useful (and better than other
>>>>>> approaches)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean that there is no need to require that sh:valueShape is
>>>>> acyclic. This is form of recursion is useful (based on OSLC use
>>>>> cases) and has a well-founded semantics which I spelled out
>>>>> recently. However, this means that you cannot translate the shape
>>>>> into a single SPARQL query, but that is not a requirement.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Arthur
>>>>>
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