- From: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>
- Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 08:36:32 +1000
- To: public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org
On 2/9/2015 4:36, Karen Coyle wrote:
> I'm trying to understand how the subject of a triple can be either of
> type shape or can have a shape.
>
> Let me make this more concrete. My subject is a book, which is a RWO,
For a computer, your subject is not a RWO but a data structure
represented by triples. Humans may interpret this as a real-world book,
but this is IMHO largely philosophical.
> and it has an IRI. I'm going to make various statements about this RWO
> (it has a title , it has an author, etc.). It makes little sense to me
> to say that this RWO "has a shape/graph." The graph has a shape, but
> using the same IRI to represent the RWO and the graph violates a basic
> rule that each IRI references one and only one "thing."
>
> It seems to me that the key difference between shapes and classes is
> exactly this: a shape is information about a graph; a class is
> information about the RWO. If the class of the RWO is coincident with
> the graph that you wish to validate, then presumably the class can be
> used as a target for validation. However, that is making a use of the
> class which is not within the definition of class in RDF. I would find
> it inconsistent with RDF for us to encourage people to assign classes
> to RWO's that represent the graph itself.
Could you point me at documents that proof that all classes in RDF must
be real-world objects? What about, for example, abstract data structures
such as rdf:Lists - rdf:List is also a class. Also please consider that
the term "class" is not exclusive to RDF Schema. It was already used by
object-oriented systems, for example. I am afraid the distinction
between real-world objects and their representation drifts into
theoretical realms that nobody outside of the RDF world seems to care
about (and rightfully so). I repeat my statement that there is zero
practical difference between the following options:
ex:Class
a owl:Class ;
rdfs:subClassOf [
a owl:Restriction ;
owl:onProperty ex:property ;
owl:minCardinality 1 ;
] .
ex:Class
a owl:Class ;
ldom:property [
a ldom:PropertyConstraint ;
ldom:predicate ex:property ;
ldom:minCount 1 ;
] .
Holger
Received on Sunday, 8 February 2015 22:37:14 UTC