- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 19:15:48 +0200
- To: "Tandy, Jeremy" <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
- Cc: Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>, Jeni Tennison <jeni@jenitennison.com>, Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com>, Davide Ceolin <d.ceolin@vu.nl>, W3C CSV on the Web Working Group <public-csv-wg@w3.org>
Jeremy, great. As agreed, I wait until tomorrow afternoon before putting it into the able hands of the webmaster. Thanks, Ivan --- Ivan Herman Tel:+31 641044153 http://www.ivan-herman.net (Written on mobile, sorry for brevity and misspellings...) > On 24 Jun 2014, at 19:10, "Tandy, Jeremy" <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote: > > All - following some great suggestions from Richard Ishida @ W3C, I've amended the RTL i18n use case. We now get no HTML validation errors (am using <bdo> not <bdi> and zero-width-non-joiner U+200C `‌` to prevent Arabic characters from being joined together). Richard also suggested a number of improvements to the use case itself - which have been incorporated. > > So ... that's all checked in and I've created another [publishing snapshot][1] (& [diff][2]). > > So Ivan - pending comments from Eric or Davide, I think we're good to get in touch with the webmaster for official publication. > > Jeremy > > [1]: http://w3c.github.io/csvw/publishing-snapshots/WD-ucr-2014-07-01/Overview.html > [2]: http://w3c.github.io/csvw/publishing-snapshots/WD-ucr-2014-07-01/diff-20140327.html > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tandy, Jeremy [mailto:jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk] >> Sent: 23 June 2014 16:18 >> To: Ivan Herman >> Cc: Dan Brickley; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C CSV >> on the Web Working Group >> Subject: RE: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-cases-and- >> requirements >> >> Super job. >> >> Davide, Eric - let's assume that nil response by Wednesday is a >> positive statement that there are no more changes required for this WD >> release. >> >> Jeremy >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] >>> Sent: 23 June 2014 14:23 >>> To: Tandy, Jeremy >>> Cc: Dan Brickley; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C CSV >>> on the Web Working Group >>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-cases-and- >>> requirements >>> >>> >>> On 23 Jun 2014, at 14:54 , Tandy, Jeremy >>> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Ivan - many thanks for your weekend working! >>> >>> Sure! >>> >>>> >>>> I have republished the [publishing snapshot][1] in gh-pages branch, >>> along with its [diff to previous version][2], including all your >>> changes. >>>> >>>> At this point, I have _NOT_ yet amended the [ED draft][3] to >> reflect >>> a change in the previous version (e.g. lines 14-16): >>>> >>>> --- >>>> previousPublishDate: "2014-03-27", >>>> previousMaturity: "FPWD", >>>> previousURI: "http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-csvw-ucr-20140327/", >>>> --- >>>> >>>> I suggest that you make these changes only once it has been passed >>>> to >>> the W3C webmaster in case we need to make some more (unforeseen) >>> changes between now and then. >>> >>> Absolutely. That is exactly the point of using those funny URI-s to >>> generate the Overview.html. >>> >>> I wait for Eric's and Davide's response whether it is a go, and I >> will >>> then copy all this to the W3C site. >>> >>> Ivan >>> >>> >>>> Many thanks, Jeremy >>>> >>>> [1]: >>>> http://w3c.github.io/csvw/publishing-snapshots/WD-ucr-2014-07- >>> 01/Overv >>>> iew.html >>>> [2]: >>>> http://w3c.github.io/csvw/publishing-snapshots/WD-ucr-2014-07- >>> 01/diff- >>>> 20140327.html >>>> [3]: http://w3c.github.io/csvw/use-cases-and- >> requirements/index.html >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] >>>>> Sent: 22 June 2014 13:26 >>>>> To: Tandy, Jeremy >>>>> Cc: Dan Brickley; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C >>> CSV >>>>> on the Web Working Group >>>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-cases- >>> and- >>>>> requirements >>>>> >>>>> Jeremy, >>>>> >>>>> - Have checked out the repo, made some changes on the index file >> to >>>>> respond to your various questions on the references (I have also >>>>> added the necessary references). I think that, from that point of >>>>> view, it is ready to go. I pushed this into the pwd-ucr branch. >>>>> - I have also looked at the checker's response, namely the >> 'manual' >>>>> checks, and I did not find any problems >>>>> >>>>> I would think that you can go ahead with the latest version, merge >>>>> and generate the final Overview.html file in the gq-pages branch. >>>>> Once this is done, I can then copy them to the final place. I have >>>>> sent a publication request to the webmaster. >>>>> >>>>> Anything else you need me for before I take over to put this up >>>>> onto the W3C? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Ivan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 20 Jun 2014, at 17:11 , Tandy, Jeremy >>>>> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ivan - thanks for initial comment. We'll merge pwd-ucr into gh- >>> pages >>>>> once we're happy. Until then, I fix `index.html` in gh-pages >> branch >>>>> and then generate a new `Overview.html` (from respec) which I >>>>> commit into pwd-ucr. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeremy >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] >>>>>>> Sent: 20 June 2014 15:40 >>>>>>> To: Tandy, Jeremy >>>>>>> Cc: Dan Brickley; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; >> W3C >>>>> CSV >>>>>>> on the Web Working Group >>>>>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use- >> cases- >>>>> and- >>>>>>> requirements >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 Jun 2014, at 13:51 , Tandy, Jeremy >>>>>>> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Dan & Ivan - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for your help. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pending resolution of the [request sent to Ivan this >> morning][1] >>> I >>>>>>> have managed to run through the entire publishing process to >>>>> generate >>>>>>> the [`Overview`][2] and [`diff`][3] html pages via RawGit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regarding the [PubRules][4] validation (see [results][5])... >>>>>>>> - I fixed some nested anchor elements caused by using `<a>` >>> within >>>>> a >>>>>>> figure caption that then got wrapped in another `<a>` by respec, >>>>>>> and found a pair of unescaped `<` and `>` characters ... nothing >>> much. >>>>>>>> - HTML validation still complains (with a warning) that the >>>>>>>> <bdi> element is not generally supported >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is warning. We should get that through with the webmaster:- >> ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - I get an error on the boiler plate regarding the Patent >> Policy >>>>> ... >>>>>>>> even though this is generated by respect :-( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hm. I will have to look at that next week, I vaguely remember >>>>>>> some issues with the checker >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - I get a number of HTTP 404 errors on URLs in the document; >> but >>>>>>> these >>>>>>>> are all from with <pre> elements (e.g. literal examples) and we >>>>>>> agreed >>>>>>>> last time that these didn't count >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. We will have to document that to the webmaster >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - I get an HTTP 403 error on >>>>>>> http://www.nhs.uk/aboutnhschoices/contactus/pages/freedom-of- >>>>>>> information.aspx - but this resolves fine for me in my browser! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, there are sites that put in obstacles for robots. As long >> as >>>>>>> this is documented that it works... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Once we're happy that the UCR document is in its final state, >>> I'll >>>>>>> run though this process again ... it didn't take very long. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But we should merge it to the main branch, and not keep it in >> the >>>>>>> separate one. The whole purpose is that whatever changes you do >>>>>>> should be there once and for all and you would not have to >> repeat >>>>>>> them next >>>>>>> time:-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, I'd appreciate an experienced assessment on the things >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>> PubRules says I need to manually verify. Most of them seem OK - >>> but >>>>>>> what do I know!? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will do that next week. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ivan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best Regards, Jeremy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PS. I've added a few amendments to the [publishing process][6] >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>> explain how to use the RawGit service. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! We and others will, hopefully profit from it... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can contact the webmaster with an agreement for the 1st of >>>>>>> July, but I have to know whether the UCR is the only document to >>>>>>> be published on that day! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ivan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1]: >>>>>>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-csv- >>> wg/2014Jun/0131.htm >>>>>>>> l >>>>>>>> [2]: >>>>>>>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/csvw/pwd-ucr/publishing-snapshots/WD- >> ucr- >>>>> 2014 >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>> 0 >>>>>>>> 7-01/Overview.html >>>>>>>> [3]: >>>>>>>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/csvw/pwd-ucr/publishing-snapshots/WD- >> ucr- >>>>> 2014 >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>> 0 >>>>>>>> 7-01/diff-20140327.html >>>>>>>> [4]: http://www.w3.org/2005/07/pubrules >>>>>>>> [5]: >>> http://services.w3.org/xslt?xmlfile=http%3A%2F%2Fservices.w3.org%2Fti >>>>>>> d >>> y%2Ftidy%3FdocAddr%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Frawgit.com%252Fw3c%252Fcsvw% >>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>> 52Fpwd-ucr%252Fpublishing-snapshots%252FWD-ucr-2014-07- >>>>>>> 01%252FOverview >>> .html&xslfile=http%3A%2F%2Fservices.w3.org%2Fxslt%3Fxmlfile%3Dhttp%3A >>>>>>> % >>> 2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2005%2F07%2Fpubrules%253Fuimode%253Dchecker_full%25 >>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>> 6year%253D2014%2526docstatus%253Dord-wd- >>>>>>> tr%2526rectrack%253Dyes%2526pr >>> evrec%253Dnone%2526patpol%253Dw3c%2526normative%253Dyes%2526uri%253Dh >>>>>>> t >>> tps%25253A%25252F%25252Frawgit.com%25252Fw3c%25252Fcsvw%25252Fpwd- >>>>>>> ucr% >>>>>>>> 25252Fpublishing-snapshots%25252FWD-ucr-2014-07- >>>>>>> 01%25252FOverview.html >>> %2526filterValues%253D%2526nscheckmanual%253D%2526display%253Dall%252 >>>>>>> 6 >>> recursive%253Doff%2526recurse_auth%253Don%26xslfile%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fww >>>>>>> w >>> .w3.org%2F2005%2F09%2Fchecker%2Fframe.xsl%26display%3Dall%26recurse_a >>>>>>> u >>> th%3Don&uimode=checker_full&filterValues=&year=2014&docstatus=ord- >>>>> wd >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>> t >>> r&rectrack=yes&prevrec=none&patpol=w3c&normative=yes&doc_uri=https%3A >>>>>>> % >>>>>>>> 2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw3c%2Fcsvw%2Fpwd-ucr%2Fpublishing- >>> snapshots%2FWD >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>> ucr >>>>>>>> -2014-07- >>>>>>> 01%2FOverview.html&recursive=off&nscheckmanual=&display=all&r >>>>>>>> ecurse_auth=on >>>>>>>> [6]: https://github.com/w3c/csvw/blob/gh- >>>>> pages/publishing_process.md >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Dan Brickley [mailto:danbri@google.com] >>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 June 2014 19:58 >>>>>>>>> To: Tandy, Jeremy >>>>>>>>> Cc: Ivan Herman; Jeni Tennison; Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; >>>>>>>>> W3C CSV on the Web Working Group >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use- >>> cases- >>>>>>> and- >>>>>>>>> requirements >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 19 June 2014 16:02, Tandy, Jeremy >>>>>>>>> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Ivan - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've created the new ucr WD on a new branch: pwd-ucr ... >>> because >>>>> I >>>>>>>>> didn't want to confuse things by publishing early wrt the W3C >>>>>>>>> publishing regime. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've got up to step 4.vii of the [publishing process][1] but >>>>>>> because >>>>>>>>> I am not on gh-pages branch I can't push my new Overview.html >>>>>>>>> to a publically accessible web server in order to run the W3C >>>>>>>>> pub rules checker. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There's a service at rawgit.com that seems useful, for short- >>> term >>>>>>> low >>>>>>>>> traffic use. I pasted >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csvw/blob/gh-pages/use- >>>>>>>>> cases-and-requirements/index.html into their "development" >> form >>>>>>>>> and get: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/csvw/gh-pages/use-cases-and- >>>>>>>>> requirements/index.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I tried that in pubrules checker >>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/07/pubrules >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> got: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser >>>>>>>>> Exception net.sf.saxon.trans.XPathException: >>>>>>>>> org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; systemId: >>> http://services.w3.org/tidy/tidy?docAddr=https%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw >>>>>>>>> 3c >>>>>>>>> %2Fcsvw%2Fgh-pages%2Fuse-cases-and-requirements%2Findex.html; >>>>>>>>> lineNumber: 11; columnNumber: 149; An invalid XML character >>>>>>> (Unicode: >>>>>>>>> 0x1b) was found in the element content of the document. >>>>>>>>> org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; systemId: >>> http://services.w3.org/tidy/tidy?docAddr=https%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw >>>>>>>>> 3c >>>>>>>>> %2Fcsvw%2Fgh-pages%2Fuse-cases-and-requirements%2Findex.html; >>>>>>>>> lineNumber: 11; columnNumber: 149; An invalid XML character >>>>>>> (Unicode: >>>>>>>>> 0x1b) was found in the element content of the document. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would you just recommend that I merge in the changes with gh- >>>>> pages >>>>>>>>> branch and get on with the process? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Many thanks, Jeremy >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1]: https://github.com/w3c/csvw/blob/gh- >>>>>>> pages/publishing_process.md >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 June 2014 11:37 >>>>>>>>>>> To: Tandy, Jeremy; Jeni Tennison >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; W3C CSV on the Web Working >>>>>>>>>>> Group; Dan Brickley >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use- >>>>> cases- >>>>>>>>> and- >>>>>>>>>>> requirements >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Jun 2014, at 10:23 , Tandy, Jeremy >>>>>>>>>>> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan: """Tuesday 1st of July is our best option""" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy with this for next PWD release. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Would this be also a date for publishing the two other >>>>>>>>>>> (model, >>>>>>>>>>> metadata) documents, or do we want to do an independent >>>>>>> publishing? >>>>>>>>>>> (Both are fine with me, but we should decide). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy, can you try to go through the publishing process, as >>>>>>>>>>> described in the archive? I hope that would work... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ivan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 18 June 2014 17:13 >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Eric Stephan; Davide Ceolin; Tandy, Jeremy >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: W3C CSV on the Web Working Group; Dan Brickley >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish >> use- >>>>>>> cases- >>>>>>>>>>> and- >>>>>>>>>>>>> requirements >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Jun 2014, at 15:33 , Dan Brickley >> <danbri@google.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <skip/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next steps: UCR editors, can you wrap up any outstanding >>>>>>> tweaks, >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> liaise with Ivan to get a publication date scheduled? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (please copy >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> list on these details) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Publishing happens on tuesdays and thursdays. It always >>>>> require >>>>>>>>>>>>> some preparation and also an agreement with the webmaster >>> (to >>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>>>>>> this into his schedule). Note also what I wrote down after >>>>>>>>>>>>> the previous >>>>>>>>>>> round: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csvw/blob/gh- >>>>> pages/publishing_process.md >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> which helps in speeding things up. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as my schedule is concerned, I am free next week >>>>> Tuesday >>>>>>>>>>>>> (24th), but I am not really available for the rest of this >>>>> week >>>>>>>>> (I >>>>>>>>>>> am >>>>>>>>>>>>> currently in Oslo for a conference, traveling back on >>>>>>>>>>>>> Friday), >>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>> this may be tight. I am not available on the 26th. I am >>>>>>> available >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the first two weeks of July both on Tuesdays and >>> Thursdays. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My feeling is that the Tuesday 1st of July is our best >>>>>>>>>>>>> option, >>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>> least from my side (ie, if you can finalize the documents >>>>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>> then) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would that work? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would we also want to schedule the two other documents for >>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> date (model and metadata)? Note that we need an explicit >> WG >>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> a request for an official 'short name' for the latter, >>>>>>>>>>>>> because that is a first public draft. (In case you wonder: >>>>>>>>>>>>> all this >>>>>>> admin >>>>>>>>>>>>> around the first draft is mainly necessary for the >>> management >>>>>>>>>>>>> of Patent >>>>>>>>>>> Policies. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The world would be simpler if we did not have to deal with >>>>>>>>>>>>> that...) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C >>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead >>>>>>>>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>>>>>>>>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D >>>>>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C >>>>>>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead >>>>>>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>>>>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>>>>>>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D >>>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C >>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead >>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D >>>>>>> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---- >>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C >>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead >>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D >>>>> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me >>> >>> >>> ---- >>> Ivan Herman, W3C >>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead >>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D >>> WebID: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf#me >
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