Re: Objectives?

On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 at 15:23, Liam R. E. Quin <liam@fromoldbooks.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2022-10-31 at 13:33 +0000, Dave Pawson wrote:
> > How much of a moving target is the print element of CSS?
> > I.e. to use as a target for objectives?
> > Anyone familiar over time?
>
> It's very incomplete, at best working draft with incomplete proposals
> partly in the specs, but as far as i can tell it's barely moved forward
> in the past decade.
>
> It might be that a useful thing a CG could do would be to take some of
> those proposals and some of the vendor extensions, and get them spec-
> ready, and show implementations, whether in browsers or elsewhere.

Positive, tks Liam


>
> Getting W3C to accept non-browser implementations has proved
> problematic in the past, and is one reason why some of the work has
> stalled. I don't know whether there has been any change in that regard,
> though - it's possible.
>
> But just having complete, clear specs for the unfinished functionality
> would help.

+1 - hopefully we could grade the proposals from Scotch mist to doable?

>
> There's issues around line-breaking, around CJK formatting, indexing,
> conditional text (e.g. for cross-references), and css page in general
> seems very underspecified.

Could these be graded in your view Liam?


>
> For browser support, we've got beyond the point where Netscape was
> happy to put a page break anywhere, with a line of text chopped in half
> so the tops of letters appeared on a different page than the bottoms
> (!), but firefox still splits ligatures in half with an axe when it
> does line-breaking.
>
> Despite all that, the commercial solutions work fairly well. The open
> source ones tend not to support "advanced features" such as footnotes
> or multiple columns or page-level floats, but are i think improving.

Fair approach? Assess proposals, Doable thru to Scotch mist?

Would that be a reasonable first pass approach?

Are the right people here in the group to do that?

regards


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