- From: Andrew Somers via GitHub <sysbot+gh@w3.org>
- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 13:12:42 +0000
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> .... _HCT which uses the L axis from CIE Lab (Tone)_ .... > _Note that the minimum contrasts for small and large text (50 and 40) are different from the thresholds for WCAG 2.1 and for APCA; thresholds are algorithm-specific._ I've been watching James' developments with interest. I'm a little surprised at the use of L* instead of J. ∆L* has an interesting attribute in that is sort of lines up with WCAG 2 — the implication is, that contrast using a plain L* suffers the same issues as WCAG2. Digging up some of the early comparison tables, here's one with ∆L*: <img width="440" alt="Simple WCAG Weber ModWeb Lstar Mich SAPC98G" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/42009457/174482102-e83d35d0-a251-4e90-9e51-46032e2bcfed.png"> An L* simple difference, when the lightest color is white, lines up with a little less than 40 = WCAG 3:!, 50 = 4.5:1, and 62 = 7:1 ... and still as colors get darker, contrast is over reported. I've also tried this with multiple offsets, but that still is not polarity sensitive. ### But wait, isn't L* perceptually uniform? L* is based on Munsell value, so it _is_ perceptually based.... _on diffuse reflected light using large color patches, when the observer is in the defined ambient/adaptation conditions._ Viewing **_text_** on a self-illuminated monitor is a different matter, and a different perception. "Middle contrast" for text and other high spatial frequency stimuli isn't at 18%, it's up between 34 and 42 (ish). As such, ∆L* without some offsets and massaging is not much different than WCAG 2 as this chart shows: <img width="509" alt="WCGACLstarSAPC98Gat60" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/42009457/174482738-b9348aca-d83f-46d1-a9e7-75211063dfa7.png"> -- GitHub Notification of comment by Myndex Please view or discuss this issue at https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7357#issuecomment-1159723228 using your GitHub account -- Sent via github-notify-ml as configured in https://github.com/w3c/github-notify-ml-config
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