Re: [csswg-drafts] [css-inline-3] initial-letters-wrap: first, whitespace collapse needs defining (#5120)

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&lt;dael> Topic: [css-inline-3] initial-letters-wrap: first, whitespace collapse needs defining<br>
&lt;fantasai> github: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5120<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Appears that current suggestion is drop-caps should have whitespace between them and first line but raised-caps should not<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Question is do we make edits to make that happen<br>
&lt;fantasai> s/drop-caps/raised-caps/<br>
&lt;fantasai> s/raised-caps should not/drop-caps shouldnot/<br>
&lt;dael> Rossen_: Edits to make that happen in text? Or where?<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Changes to initial-letters spec. If you have a raised initial than whatever whitepsace collapsing which would take effect should happen. word, raised-initial letter should have all spaces<br>
&lt;tantek> yeah with dropcaps that space after the initial letter would look like an errant text-indent<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: drop-caps if you have that behavior it would be weird so we should collapse the white-space.<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: dauwhe do you want to explain more?<br>
&lt;dbaron> This seems related to 'initial-letter-wrap: first'.<br>
&lt;tantek> I did find an example for this one in print lol (a whole word drop-cap)<br>
&lt;dbaron> There's an example at https://drafts.csswg.org/css-inline-3/#valdef-initial-letter-wrap-first<br>
&lt;dael> dauwhe: It's a weird case. When the initial-letter is a word. Other in English it's an A or an I that starts a sentence. We need to retain the space so reader is not confused. Some examples in spec I think. Sunk drop-cap gives you space automatically. Rasied-cap you don't so need to retain the space<br>
&lt;dael> dauwhe: What fantasai proposes seems reasonable<br>
&lt;dael> tantek: Prop the space when it's drop-cap?<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Discard space when drop-cap. Keep with raised-cap<br>
&lt;dael> tantek: Yeah. That's what I'm seeing in print<br>
&lt;dael> tantek: Print examples conform to that<br>
&lt;dael> dbaron: Reasonable but makes me wonder if initial-letter-wrap should default to first instead of none<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Does that b/c people didn't want to impl first<br>
&lt;dael> Rossen_: We're overtime and people are dropping<br>
&lt;fantasai> (so we couldn't make it the default)<br>
&lt;dael> Rossen_: Ready to resolve or table?<br>
&lt;dael> Rossen_: We're losing people. Let's not resolve now and take this first next week<br>
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