- From: Chen Hui Jing via GitHub <sysbot+gh@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 08:38:28 +0000
- To: public-css-archive@w3.org
I think @davatron5000 raises a salient point about how the TC39 chose to handle ECMAScript with "big" releases of each version seems to be received well with many people. But I think the key difference here is that CSS was modularised, which makes it tricky to do something similar like a CSS2020 or even CSS4 as per the original suggestion. There is also a significant difference for the Javascript eco-system that goes beyond perception alone, which is Babel. Developers generally feel safe to use all the latest and greatest ECMAScript features because Babel is there to take care of the cross-browser/backward compatibility issues for them. In relation to this idea, I find myself agreeing with @rachelandrew that the issues with adoption of newer CSS properties are also significantly dependent on how and when browsers implement them, especially browsers with significant market share. I'm very much for more explaining about the process. That being said, I feel that I do have a significantly subjective emotional connection to CSS that perhaps clouds my perspective, which is one the majority of web developers probably do not share. The crude analogy I can draw here is you cannot unlearn how to ride a bicycle. And for me, understanding the process and embracing the varying levels of browser support is the bicycle I have learned to ride. What is the best way to teach the general web developer how to ride this bicycle as well? But I suppose the heart of this topic to begin with was how to even get the general web developer to want to ride this bicycle. The points I've seen repeatedly mentioned by people above this comment thread are: - [CSS is] generally perceived as stale (@davatron5000) - new features in CSS might not really be production ready (@tallys), - not aware of newer CSS specifications, don’t realise how well-supported they are, or don’t have the time to prioritise learning them (@mbarker84) And I agree with these observations because I see them often as well. I'm just not sure if CSS4 is the appropriate way to trigger "excitement" or push web developers to learn more. -- GitHub Notification of comment by huijing Please view or discuss this issue at https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4770#issuecomment-585612959 using your GitHub account
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