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Re: [csswg-drafts] [css-list-3] List-item outside markers

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The Working Group just discussed `Interop on List-item outside marker`, and agreed to the following resolutions:

* `RESOLVED: Add Francois to the Lists spec`

<details><summary>The full IRC log of that discussion</summary>
&lt;gregwhitworth> TOPIC: Interop on List-item outside marker<br>
&lt;astearns> github: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1934<br>
&lt;astearns> fremy projects<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: more precisely the positioning of the marker<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: you can center things, but it's 2017 and we still don't know where to put the bullets<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: got a bug to put the bullet in the right place<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: shows bug in Edge<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fantasai: wait it is spec conformant?<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> dbaron: yes it is<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: shows Chrome<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: let's fix it<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: so I started to look at the spec and it's missing<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: spec isn't ready to implement<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: put the 2.1 spec text and technically Edge is matching but the spec is very vague<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> dbaron: I think I may have been responsible for that note<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: I get the impression that nothing is defined<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> dbaron: in Chrome it is inside the principal box so it violates the 2.1 text<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: we want to fix this issue, but we want to spec it<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fantasai: yes<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> tantek: all of those sentences come from long discussions and not agreeing<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: so I'll describe how Edge is implementing this<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> *fremy shows slides and he will post them a bit later*<br>
&lt;leaverou> since we're talking about weird bullet positioning, I'll quietly drop this Chrome &amp; Edge issue here, in case it's relevant… http://dabblet.com/gist/3731c920fa0ee56efe3ec24a33a88964<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: there are two different steps, find out which line box do you need to affect with the bullet<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: then horizontally position the bullet<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fantasai: how we end up describing this, we'll need to really think about the markers - what they need to do and what they're trying to achieve typographically<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fantasai: we shouldn't need to switch the model<br>
&lt;iank_> q+<br>
&lt;astearns> ack fremy<br>
&lt;tantek> q?<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> TabAtkins: attaching it to the first LI, and the first item may be overflow: hidden and the marker can disappear<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> dbaron: that doesn't happen in Gecko because we position it to the align but it's not actually contained in that<br>
&lt;astearns> ack iank_<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> dbaron: back when Gecko did what was in fremy feedback and when we fixed it we don't get bugs<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> iank_: we're looking at re-implementing markers, our current list marker behavior is not nice<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> iank_: we're doing something very similar to what you described<br>
&lt;TabAtkins> &lt;li>&lt;div style="overflow:hidden">...&lt;/div>  &lt;= list marker is clipped in Chrome!<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> iank_: I'll need to check with Koji, we're doing something very similar to what you described, so if you could specify it that sounds great<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: that's what we want<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> eae: now is the right time for us to spec this<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: to reply to Tab, to have overflow: hidden we can't put it inside of a non-bfc and this is would not happen<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> astearns: so what is the action?<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: I wanted to know if there was interest, it seems like there is<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> fremy: Sure I'll be a co-editor but I care more about interop<br>
&lt;gregwhitworth> RESOLVED: Add Francois to the Lists spec<br>
&lt;dbaron> some links to previous discussion:https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172073 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2008Feb/0116.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2008Feb/0118.html<br>
&lt;dbaron> (and there's more that I haven't found yet)<br>

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